[SGVLUG] AT&T vs DSLExtreme offerings

[Scott Packard]

It's VHDL, or VHDSL, if it's U-Verse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very-high-bit-rate_digital_subscriber_line

-Scott

On Sep 22, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Rod Morison <rod at morison.biz> wrote:

> As I (admittedly vaguely) understand it here in Altadena, AT$T has used their "pole position" to run fiber closer to my address than the CO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x). There's not much underground here, so I assume it's above ground. 
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> It's still DSL over copper to my house, but at significantly higher rates than Covad or anyone else can offer from the CO. This is the uverse internet service.
> 
> I'd love to be further corrected or enlightened, though.
> 
> Btw, the nasty thing about AT&T is they adamantly *will not* allow any other DSL service to my house to proceed with provisioning. "Possible complications associated with delivering our signal" was the most technical answer I could ever cajole out of them. I've tried to sneak through an eval service twice now, but unless my Covad service is cancelled and dark, they will not proceed with install.
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> On 9/22/2012 12:31 PM, Dan Buthusiem wrote:
>> You could try to push it higher, but 13 dB margin on the downstream doesn't give you much room. Margins under 10 usually end up unstable and intermittently drop sync. Was it AT&T's sales department upselling you? Never trust sales after tech support tells you your limits.
>> 
>> On Sep 22, 2012 12:15 PM, "Jess Bermudes" <jbermudes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In what is apparently the opposite experience that most people have
>> with ISPs, AT&T seems to be able to offer me higher bandwidth than
>> resellers such as DSLExtreme. DSLExtreme currently says that I am only
>> capable of 3Mbps but AT&T seems to think I can go up higher to 6 IIRC.
>> 
>> According to my Modem, my line currently has the following stats:
>> 
>> Rx    Tx
>> =========
>> 
>> Rate: 3008, 512
>> ATTN DR: 3008, --
>> SNRM: 13.0, 21.0
>> LATN: --, --
>> SATN: 20.0, --
>> TP: --, 3.5
>> 
>> So who's right? Is AT&T just trying to sell me something that they
>> can't deliver? Has anyone else had similar discrepancies in service
>> availability?
>> 
>> If you want to see some more details, I've pasted the full technical
>> readout from the modem at http://pastebin.com/jbkQQvqn
>> 
>>  - Jess
>> 
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