<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>It's VHDL, or VHDSL, if it's U-Verse:</div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very-high-bit-rate_digital_subscriber_line">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very-high-bit-rate_digital_subscriber_line</a></div><div><br>-Scott</div><div><br>On Sep 22, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Rod Morison <<a href="mailto:rod@morison.biz">rod@morison.biz</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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As I (admittedly vaguely) understand it here in Altadena, AT$T has
used their "pole position" to run fiber closer to my address than
the CO (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x</a>). There's not
much underground here, so I assume it's above ground. <br>
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It's still DSL over copper to my house, but at significantly higher
rates than Covad or anyone else can offer from the CO. This is the
uverse internet service.<br>
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I'd love to be further corrected or enlightened, though.<br>
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Btw, the nasty thing about AT&T is they adamantly *will not*
allow any other DSL service to my house to proceed with
provisioning. "Possible complications associated with delivering our
signal" was the most technical answer I could ever cajole out of
them. I've tried to sneak through an eval service twice now, but
unless my Covad service is cancelled and dark, they will not proceed
with install.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/22/2012 12:31 PM, Dan Buthusiem
wrote:<br>
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<p>You could try to push it higher, but 13 dB margin on the
downstream doesn't give you much room. Margins under 10 usually
end up unstable and intermittently drop sync. Was it AT&T's
sales department upselling you? Never trust sales after tech
support tells you your limits.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 22, 2012 12:15 PM, "Jess Bermudes"
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In what is apparently the opposite experience that most people
have<br>
with ISPs, AT&T seems to be able to offer me higher
bandwidth than<br>
resellers such as DSLExtreme. DSLExtreme currently says that I
am only<br>
capable of 3Mbps but AT&T seems to think I can go up
higher to 6 IIRC.<br>
<br>
According to my Modem, my line currently has the following
stats:<br>
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Rx Tx<br>
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<br>
Rate: 3008, 512<br>
ATTN DR: 3008, --<br>
SNRM: 13.0, 21.0<br>
LATN: --, --<br>
SATN: 20.0, --<br>
TP: --, 3.5<br>
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So who's right? Is AT&T just trying to sell me something
that they<br>
can't deliver? Has anyone else had similar discrepancies in
service<br>
availability?<br>
<br>
If you want to see some more details, I've pasted the full
technical<br>
readout from the modem at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pastebin.com/jbkQQvqn" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/jbkQQvqn</a><br>
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- Jess<br>
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