[SGVLUG] ATT DSL Gateway choices, which gateway do you like?

Scott Packard spackard at gmail.com
Sun Aug 12 17:28:01 PDT 2012


They use the old wire.  It takes an act greater than God to get a new wire
pulled.
It does not have as long a distance to go, though.  It goes to a
neighborhood node.

The modem is VHDSL, which looks good on paper.  AT&T's billing system is
deficient.
Just look on slickdeals for uverse specials, and, study how many hours
people
spend on the phone every month getting their bill corrected.

Regards, Scott

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM, matti <mathew_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks Dan!
>
> I've put cat5e line from the MPOE to the filter,
> and from there split the phone and DSL.
>
> So, inside wiring probably not the issue unless someone
> has jacked with the wiring I did. Filter maybe, I can easily
> substitute it.
>
> Uverse - in theory I think it is available in this neighborhood.
> What has been your experience: Would they run a new wire?
> or just use the old one?
>
> thanks
> matti
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Dan Buthusiem <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com>
> *To:* SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [SGVLUG] ATT DSL Gateway choices, which gateway do you
> like?
>
> Your line's too noisy for 3 Meg. 7 dB snr is low. You'll end up losing
> sync intermittently. The downstream attentuation isn't exactly terrible,
> but you're pushing it. Might get better results from downgrading to 1.5M,
> but you'll have troubke with things like Netflix. See if you're in Uverse
> turf. I know people who've magically been able to have new lines run to get
> their connection improved. The only other suggestion would be to switch to
> coax, since coax providers will usually (sloppily) run you a new line
> straight into your home. If you really want to stick with DSL, connect the
> modem directly into the customer side of your NID / demarc (the physical
> cutoff between your home wiring and AT&T's network), then measure your line
> levels again after you get sync. If your downstream SNR improves above 10,
> then your insid lines might be the problem. There's a chance it's
> filtering, since a bad filter causes interference with your downstream, but
> I don't see that being likely with such a high attenuation. Unplug all of
> your phones and see if your SNR improves. Also, make sure the filters are
> on your phones, and *not* your modem. I don't really see you getting much
> of an improvement with a new modem, with the exception of an old Alcatel
> Speed Touch Home. Those things are ancient, but one of the best modems ever
> made.
> On Aug 12, 2012 3:36 PM, "matti" <mathew_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dan, how does this look to you?
>
>
> DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)Protocol: G.DMT Annex ADownstream
> Rate: 3008 kbpsUpstream Rate: 512 kbpsChannel: InterleavedCurrent Noise
> Margin: 7.0 dB (Downstream) 16.0 dB (Upstream)Current Attenuation:50.1 dB (Downstream) 31.0 dB (Upstream)Current
> Output Power: 18.5 dBm (Downstream) 7.1 dBm (Upstream)DSLAM Vendor
> Information: Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {BDCM} Specific: {0x4D54}PVC Info:0/35
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Dan Buthusiem <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com>
> *To:* SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [SGVLUG] ATT DSL Gateway choices, which gateway do you
> like?
>
> I have a spare 2701 if you want it. I might be able to dig up a Netgear
> DG... Something. Did you ever get your line levels? Could you post your
> attenuation and noise / SNR? DSL is a bit of a specialty of mine.
>
>
>
>
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