[SGVLUG] ATT DSL Gateway choices, which gateway do you like?

[Dan Buthusiem]

No prob! Just make sure the modem is getting a straight, unfiltered
connection to telco.

As far as Uverse goes, they bent over backwards for my girlfriend to give
her VDSL, but the run is all aerial and close to the DSLAM. Her mother hot
a triple bundle. Everything is being run over coax with AT&T (VoIP, TV, and
internet), and it was a new drop for the coax. Just make sure you still
have a regular copper drop in the event of an emergency. Sure, the VoIP
gateway has a hefty battery backup, but I still prefer having an old
fashioned phone line just in case (911 doesn't require a phone service
account with telco, just a working jack with dial tone).

Performance-wise, it's been pretty good. They gateways they provide have
very strong signal. I hate using 2wire equipment as my firewall, though. It
never fully allows you to turn it into a bridge so that you can use a more
preferred router / gateway. Be cafeful of hidden fees, and make sure that
you.keep an eye on them during installation. One line was perfect after 2
weeks of techs troubleshooting the line (She had under 30dB attentuation,
but terrible noise margins). The jack which struggled to hold 1.5 Mbit down
now holds a stable 12 Mbit connection, and her router says it can negotiate
over 50 Mbit if she were to pay for it / AT&T were to offer it. The triple
combo line resulted in equipment and installation fees of $700, and the
bulk of it was extra work the techs never had the owner sign off on (which
is how it got waived after a month of fighting). AT&T has three different
ways they can run Uverse to you, so keep a sharp eye and ask lots of
questions to make sure they give you exactly and only what you want.
On Aug 12, 2012 5:13 PM, "matti" <mathew_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks Dan!
>
> I've put cat5e line from the MPOE to the filter,
> and from there split the phone and DSL.
>
> So, inside wiring probably not the issue unless someone
> has jacked with the wiring I did. Filter maybe, I can easily
> substitute it.
>
> Uverse - in theory I think it is available in this neighborhood.
> What has been your experience: Would they run a new wire?
> or just use the old one?
>
> thanks
> matti
>
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> *From:* Dan Buthusiem <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com>
> *To:* SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [SGVLUG] ATT DSL Gateway choices, which gateway do you
> like?
>
> Your line's too noisy for 3 Meg. 7 dB snr is low. You'll end up losing
> sync intermittently. The downstream attentuation isn't exactly terrible,
> but you're pushing it. Might get better results from downgrading to 1.5M,
> but you'll have troubke with things like Netflix. See if you're in Uverse
> turf. I know people who've magically been able to have new lines run to get
> their connection improved. The only other suggestion would be to switch to
> coax, since coax providers will usually (sloppily) run you a new line
> straight into your home. If you really want to stick with DSL, connect the
> modem directly into the customer side of your NID / demarc (the physical
> cutoff between your home wiring and AT&T's network), then measure your line
> levels again after you get sync. If your downstream SNR improves above 10,
> then your insid lines might be the problem. There's a chance it's
> filtering, since a bad filter causes interference with your downstream, but
> I don't see that being likely with such a high attenuation. Unplug all of
> your phones and see if your SNR improves. Also, make sure the filters are
> on your phones, and *not* your modem. I don't really see you getting much
> of an improvement with a new modem, with the exception of an old Alcatel
> Speed Touch Home. Those things are ancient, but one of the best modems ever
> made.
> On Aug 12, 2012 3:36 PM, "matti" <mathew_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dan, how does this look to you?
>
>
> DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)Protocol: G.DMT Annex ADownstream
> Rate: 3008 kbpsUpstream Rate: 512 kbpsChannel: InterleavedCurrent Noise
> Margin: 7.0 dB (Downstream) 16.0 dB (Upstream)Current Attenuation:50.1 dB (Downstream) 31.0 dB (Upstream)Current
> Output Power: 18.5 dBm (Downstream) 7.1 dBm (Upstream)DSLAM Vendor
> Information: Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {BDCM} Specific: {0x4D54}PVC Info:0/35
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> *From:* Dan Buthusiem <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com>
> *To:* SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [SGVLUG] ATT DSL Gateway choices, which gateway do you
> like?
>
> I have a spare 2701 if you want it. I might be able to dig up a Netgear
> DG... Something. Did you ever get your line levels? Could you post your
> attenuation and noise / SNR? DSL is a bit of a specialty of mine.
>
>
>
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