[SGVLUG] Linux based web-server appliance

[Joel Witherspoon]

We have'nt decided on an appliance. How is powweb and peoplehosts uptime?

On 5/21/06, Harold Totten <haroldtotten at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cheaper than most is PeopleHost.
> http://peoplehost.com/webhosting.php
>
>                      Price       Storage      Bandwidth
> Web Basic     $ 3.95     100MB       4GB
> Web Pro         $ 7.95     200MB       8GB
>
> Been using for a few years.
> Harold
>
>
>
> On 5/18/06, Matthew Gallizzi < matthew.gallizzi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Since the options for setting up your own server have been discussed, I
> > will talk about paying a hosting company.
> >
> > As of today, I have been moving my hosting accounts from powweb.com to
> > 1and1.com (developer package). Powweb was great, I was with them for
> > about 6 years. It is $7.99 a month and it saved me the hassle of a lot of
> > different aspects of running a website. I moved because 1and1 just provides
> > a lot more ( 1.5TB of monthly bandwidth, 150GB of space...) and I am
> > going to start a web project that will most likely consume a lot of
> > bandwidth. Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that this option is
> > available... Powweb uses FreeBSD servers and I'm not too sure what 1and1
> > runs but I know it's linux. In the end, time is money. If you want to learn,
> > then setting it up yourself would be your best bet.
> >
> > On another note, I was the webmaster for San Dimas High School (In the
> > Bonita Unified School District) and their host is just a typical one like
> > Powweb if that means anything.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Matthew Gallizzi
> >
> >
> > On 5/18/06, Dustin Laurence < dustin at laurences.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:36:13PM -0700, Emerson, Tom wrote:
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message----- Of Joel Witherspoon
> > > > >
> > > > > I work for a school district and we are looking to host
> > > > > our own website and many years and dollars with an provider.
> > > >
> > > > (I presume you meant "and SAVE many dollars instead of paying a
> > > > provider...")
> > >
> > > Keep in mind that what you'll be doing is trading time and knowledge
> > > for
> > > money.  That's fine, provided both are available.  If not, consider
> > > getting one of the $10-$20/mo. hosting services and pay them to spend
> > > time getting the server back up after a hardware failure.  Keep in
> > > mind
> > > that you still have to pay for the bandwidth.  On the other hand, if
> > > you
> > > buy the pipe then you don't have bandwidth charges.
> > >
> > > > > Besides the Cobalt servers, what other type of linux based
> > > > > web server appliances are out there?
> > > >
> > > > Any cast-off PC for starters ;)  [Well, maybe not the ones David is
> > > > using if you expect a significant amount of traffic -- then again,
> > > > serving plain static pages doesn't take much effort...]
> > >
> > > It takes very little to run a website, though it depends on what you
> > > want to host.  If it is static HTML then you can probably buy an NSLU2
> > >
> > > for $100, install Linux, and pay very little in power as well.  If you
> > > use an old PC you'll be paying a noticable power bill (for a home--for
> > > a
> > > school it might well be *way* below the noise).  If you want to run a
> > > Plone site, well, you can probably do it on a not-too-old desktop PC
> > > but
> > > not on a little nas device!
> > >
> > > Judging from my own experience at home, if there is money to invest up
> > > front it will probably pay off in a couple of years to invest in a
> > > lower
> > > power machine (say based on a Via chip or even one of the desktop
> > > Pentium-M boards).  But I bet logic has nothing to do with it.  If the
> > > school doesn't question the hundreds or even thousands of dollars a
> > > month it must take to power a school each month but won't cough up a
> > > few
> > > hundred dollars for hardware, definitely go with cast-off PC gear and
> > > totally ignore power costs.  That's the hand they dealt you.
> > >
> > > > Do you have any metrics from your current site?  [pages and/or bytes
> > > > transferred per month, day, hour]  Is the site heavy with
> > > server-side
> > > > "stuff" [java/perl CGI's, databases, etc.]  Do your site developers
> > > use
> > > > proprietary design tools (ASP) [I presume not, since you're asking
> > > about
> > > > linux based servers, but it never hurts to check...]
> > >
> > > I totally agree with this--the big thing is to get a very good idea of
> > > what you expect from this server.  Who writes the website?  Talk to
> > > them
> > > first of all!  Know your bandwidth targets and exactly what server
> > > software you have to run.  Also reliability expectations--if heads
> > > will
> > > roll if there is downtime, then someone has to pay for failover or
> > > better hardware than old PCs.
> > >
> > > If none of these answers are known, then perhaps you don't know enough
> > >
> > > yet to do the job right?
> > >
> > > Dustin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Harold Totten
> http://www.HaroldTotten.com
> Altadena, California
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Katharine Hepburn said, "If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun."
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