[SGVLUG] Linux based web-server appliance

Harold Totten haroldtotten at gmail.com
Sun May 21 10:35:07 PDT 2006


Cheaper than most is PeopleHost.
http://peoplehost.com/webhosting.php

                     Price       Storage      Bandwidth
Web Basic     $ 3.95     100MB       4GB
Web Pro         $ 7.95     200MB       8GB

Been using for a few years.
Harold


On 5/18/06, Matthew Gallizzi <matthew.gallizzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since the options for setting up your own server have been discussed, I
> will talk about paying a hosting company.
>
> As of today, I have been moving my hosting accounts from powweb.com to
> 1and1.com (developer package). Powweb was great, I was with them for about
> 6 years. It is $7.99 a month and it saved me the hassle of a lot of
> different aspects of running a website. I moved because 1and1 just provides
> a lot more ( 1.5TB of monthly bandwidth, 150GB of space...) and I am going
> to start a web project that will most likely consume a lot of bandwidth.
> Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that this option is available...
> Powweb uses FreeBSD servers and I'm not too sure what 1and1 runs but I know
> it's linux. In the end, time is money. If you want to learn, then setting it
> up yourself would be your best bet.
>
> On another note, I was the webmaster for San Dimas High School (In the
> Bonita Unified School District) and their host is just a typical one like
> Powweb if that means anything.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Matthew Gallizzi
>
>
> On 5/18/06, Dustin Laurence <dustin at laurences.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:36:13PM -0700, Emerson, Tom wrote:
> >
> > > > -----Original Message----- Of Joel Witherspoon
> > > >
> > > > I work for a school district and we are looking to host
> > > > our own website and many years and dollars with an provider.
> > >
> > > (I presume you meant "and SAVE many dollars instead of paying a
> > > provider...")
> >
> > Keep in mind that what you'll be doing is trading time and knowledge for
> > money.  That's fine, provided both are available.  If not, consider
> > getting one of the $10-$20/mo. hosting services and pay them to spend
> > time getting the server back up after a hardware failure.  Keep in mind
> > that you still have to pay for the bandwidth.  On the other hand, if you
> >
> > buy the pipe then you don't have bandwidth charges.
> >
> > > > Besides the Cobalt servers, what other type of linux based
> > > > web server appliances are out there?
> > >
> > > Any cast-off PC for starters ;)  [Well, maybe not the ones David is
> > > using if you expect a significant amount of traffic -- then again,
> > > serving plain static pages doesn't take much effort...]
> >
> > It takes very little to run a website, though it depends on what you
> > want to host.  If it is static HTML then you can probably buy an NSLU2
> > for $100, install Linux, and pay very little in power as well.  If you
> > use an old PC you'll be paying a noticable power bill (for a home--for a
> > school it might well be *way* below the noise).  If you want to run a
> > Plone site, well, you can probably do it on a not-too-old desktop PC but
> > not on a little nas device!
> >
> > Judging from my own experience at home, if there is money to invest up
> > front it will probably pay off in a couple of years to invest in a lower
> >
> > power machine (say based on a Via chip or even one of the desktop
> > Pentium-M boards).  But I bet logic has nothing to do with it.  If the
> > school doesn't question the hundreds or even thousands of dollars a
> > month it must take to power a school each month but won't cough up a few
> >
> > hundred dollars for hardware, definitely go with cast-off PC gear and
> > totally ignore power costs.  That's the hand they dealt you.
> >
> > > Do you have any metrics from your current site?  [pages and/or bytes
> > > transferred per month, day, hour]  Is the site heavy with server-side
> > > "stuff" [java/perl CGI's, databases, etc.]  Do your site developers
> > use
> > > proprietary design tools (ASP) [I presume not, since you're asking
> > about
> > > linux based servers, but it never hurts to check...]
> >
> > I totally agree with this--the big thing is to get a very good idea of
> > what you expect from this server.  Who writes the website?  Talk to them
> > first of all!  Know your bandwidth targets and exactly what server
> > software you have to run.  Also reliability expectations--if heads will
> > roll if there is downtime, then someone has to pay for failover or
> > better hardware than old PCs.
> >
> > If none of these answers are known, then perhaps you don't know enough
> > yet to do the job right?
> >
> > Dustin
> >
> >
> >
>


-- 
Harold Totten
http://www.HaroldTotten.com
Altadena, California
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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