[SGVLUG] Linux based web-server appliance

[Robert]

I have been quite pleased with powweb.

Their forums are pretty good, and they are also good "ethically" on
keeping their customers aware of scheduled changes and such.

Their home office is in San Gabriel (I live in this city as well, and the
SGVLUG is "SG" after all...)

To be fair, there might be other hosting services as good or better, but I
can only speak about powweb because that is the only one I have used.


Sincerely,
Robert

> We have'nt decided on an appliance. How is powweb and peoplehosts uptime?
>
> On 5/21/06, Harold Totten <haroldtotten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cheaper than most is PeopleHost.
>> http://peoplehost.com/webhosting.php
>>
>>                      Price       Storage      Bandwidth
>> Web Basic     $ 3.95     100MB       4GB
>> Web Pro         $ 7.95     200MB       8GB
>>
>> Been using for a few years.
>> Harold
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/06, Matthew Gallizzi < matthew.gallizzi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Since the options for setting up your own server have been discussed,
>> I
>> > will talk about paying a hosting company.
>> >
>> > As of today, I have been moving my hosting accounts from powweb.com to
>> > 1and1.com (developer package). Powweb was great, I was with them for
>> > about 6 years. It is $7.99 a month and it saved me the hassle of a lot
>> of
>> > different aspects of running a website. I moved because 1and1 just
>> provides
>> > a lot more ( 1.5TB of monthly bandwidth, 150GB of space...) and I am
>> > going to start a web project that will most likely consume a lot of
>> > bandwidth. Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that this option is
>> > available... Powweb uses FreeBSD servers and I'm not too sure what
>> 1and1
>> > runs but I know it's linux. In the end, time is money. If you want to
>> learn,
>> > then setting it up yourself would be your best bet.
>> >
>> > On another note, I was the webmaster for San Dimas High School (In the
>> > Bonita Unified School District) and their host is just a typical one
>> like
>> > Powweb if that means anything.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> > Matthew Gallizzi
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/18/06, Dustin Laurence < dustin at laurences.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:36:13PM -0700, Emerson, Tom wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message----- Of Joel Witherspoon
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I work for a school district and we are looking to host
>> > > > > our own website and many years and dollars with an provider.
>> > > >
>> > > > (I presume you meant "and SAVE many dollars instead of paying a
>> > > > provider...")
>> > >
>> > > Keep in mind that what you'll be doing is trading time and knowledge
>> > > for
>> > > money.  That's fine, provided both are available.  If not, consider
>> > > getting one of the $10-$20/mo. hosting services and pay them to
>> spend
>> > > time getting the server back up after a hardware failure.  Keep in
>> > > mind
>> > > that you still have to pay for the bandwidth.  On the other hand, if
>> > > you
>> > > buy the pipe then you don't have bandwidth charges.
>> > >
>> > > > > Besides the Cobalt servers, what other type of linux based
>> > > > > web server appliances are out there?
>> > > >
>> > > > Any cast-off PC for starters ;)  [Well, maybe not the ones David
>> is
>> > > > using if you expect a significant amount of traffic -- then again,
>> > > > serving plain static pages doesn't take much effort...]
>> > >
>> > > It takes very little to run a website, though it depends on what you
>> > > want to host.  If it is static HTML then you can probably buy an
>> NSLU2
>> > >
>> > > for $100, install Linux, and pay very little in power as well.  If
>> you
>> > > use an old PC you'll be paying a noticable power bill (for a
>> home--for
>> > > a
>> > > school it might well be *way* below the noise).  If you want to run
>> a
>> > > Plone site, well, you can probably do it on a not-too-old desktop PC
>> > > but
>> > > not on a little nas device!
>> > >
>> > > Judging from my own experience at home, if there is money to invest
>> up
>> > > front it will probably pay off in a couple of years to invest in a
>> > > lower
>> > > power machine (say based on a Via chip or even one of the desktop
>> > > Pentium-M boards).  But I bet logic has nothing to do with it.  If
>> the
>> > > school doesn't question the hundreds or even thousands of dollars a
>> > > month it must take to power a school each month but won't cough up a
>> > > few
>> > > hundred dollars for hardware, definitely go with cast-off PC gear
>> and
>> > > totally ignore power costs.  That's the hand they dealt you.
>> > >
>> > > > Do you have any metrics from your current site?  [pages and/or
>> bytes
>> > > > transferred per month, day, hour]  Is the site heavy with
>> > > server-side
>> > > > "stuff" [java/perl CGI's, databases, etc.]  Do your site
>> developers
>> > > use
>> > > > proprietary design tools (ASP) [I presume not, since you're asking
>> > > about
>> > > > linux based servers, but it never hurts to check...]
>> > >
>> > > I totally agree with this--the big thing is to get a very good idea
>> of
>> > > what you expect from this server.  Who writes the website?  Talk to
>> > > them
>> > > first of all!  Know your bandwidth targets and exactly what server
>> > > software you have to run.  Also reliability expectations--if heads
>> > > will
>> > > roll if there is downtime, then someone has to pay for failover or
>> > > better hardware than old PCs.
>> > >
>> > > If none of these answers are known, then perhaps you don't know
>> enough
>> > >
>> > > yet to do the job right?
>> > >
>> > > Dustin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Harold Totten
>> http://www.HaroldTotten.com
>> Altadena, California
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Katharine Hepburn said, "If you obey all the rules you miss all the
>> fun."
>>
>


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