[SGVLUG] Recommendations for > 100 MBbs routers

Tue Aug 16 21:45:18 PDT 2016

+1 for the ubiquiti erlite 3. Router. You'll be amazed at how they perform
for the cost. Google the brand, you'll find a lot on them, surprised you
haven't heard of them.

I've switched all my equipment, my clients, and my work network
infrastructure to UbNt routers and their Unifi line of work equipment.

On Aug 16, 2016 20:34, "Jess Bermudes" <jbermudes at gmail.com> wrote:

> A word of warning about the TP-Link router. TP-Link jumped the gun on the
> new FCC regulations and tried to lock down the flashing of third-party
> firmware. While it's not impossible, it can be quite the task if you're new
> to the firmware flashing game. I have an Archer C7 you can play around with
> at HAK this Thursday if you want to see it. I'll probably be trying to
> restore the original firmware as flashing OpenWRT on it was unsuccessful
> for reasons I won't know until I open it up and connect a serial cable to
> it.
>
> Were you looking for something specifically to run third-party firmware?
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Claude Felizardo <cafelizardo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So how much is a used Cisco pro router or a new linksys router?  I really
>> don't need to know how to configure a cisco router.  I've never heard of
>> Ubiquiti.  The Netgear's look pretty cool but a bit too expensive.
>>
>> I have been looking at the TP-Link AC1900 Archer C9 which is available on
>> amazon for $120 but someone told me about the UTT AC750GW that supports
>> IPSec/PPTP VPN, detachable antennas and multiple WAN ports which sounds
>> very interesting as it can do link aggregation or you can configure it to
>> send outbound traffic to different ISPs based on destination or source IP.
>>
>> http://www.uttglobal.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Matthew Campbell <dvdmatt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a used Cisco professional router on eBay for about the
>> same cost as a good Linksys runs new.  For the learning experience
>> alone it was worth every penny.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Christopher Hicks <chicks.net at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've had good luck with https://routerboard.com/ which supports 1G ports
>> and has a rustic but usable web GUI.  You can get them as raw boards or
>> integrated into rack-mountable package.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Jess Bermudes <jbermudes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've heard a lot of praise for Ubiqiti's stuff, and have used it in the
>>> past and agree it's lot of bang for your buck, but I'm hesitant to give
>>> them my full support when they're not a good citizen of the open source
>>> world and actively violate the GPL:
>>>
>>> http://libertybsd.net/ubiquiti/
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Dan Buthusiem <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> SmallNetBuilder's review of Ubiquiti's EdgeRouter Lite sold me on it,
>>>> since it was able to hold 950 Mbps per port at a $100 price point. My
>>>> Netgears aren't supposed to be able to hold much more than about 500 Mbps
>>>> per port WAN to LAN, so I only use them as APs. It seems WiFi goes obsolete
>>>> much faster than routers and switches, which is why I keep the access
>>>> points as separate boxes from the rest of my network - having to take down
>>>> my entire network for a different wireless box is annoying.
>>>>
>>>> I've got a dual WAN router I'm due to migrate off of soon, since it's
>>>> nearing its EOL. If you'd like to borrow the ErLite3, I've got a spare you
>>>> can play with for a bit. I haven't noticed anything else that beats it for
>>>> its price point. Their Unifi APs look very tempting, too.
>>>>
>>>> As far as your modem question, there's nothing you should need to tune.
>>>> I would look into its statistics page to see your speed profile, negotiated
>>>> rate (the fastest speed your modem can manage to the node, based on line
>>>> conditions), and your attenuation / noise. This way, you'll be able to see
>>>> if your speed issues are due to poor line conditions or possible
>>>> oversubscription of the node.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2016 4:51 PM, "Matthew Campbell" <dvdmatt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I picked up a used Cisco professional router on eBay for about the
>>>>> same cost as a good Linksys runs new.  For the learning experience
>>>>> alone it was worth every penny.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
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>>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Claude Felizardo <
>>>>> cafelizardo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > The TimeWarner bundle promo ended so the rate went up so I decided to
>>>>> > give Giggle Fiber a try.  That's giggle with an I, not two O's.  They
>>>>> > bought out Champion cable in Arcadia/Monrovia so it's fiber to a node
>>>>> > somewhere in the the neighborhood then coax to your home.  With TWC I
>>>>> > was getting 80-90 Mbps down and 10 Mbps up, obviously capped for what
>>>>> > I was paying but we'd get drop outs constantly and the speeds would
>>>>> > vary so much depending on time of day.  Giggle claims on their web
>>>>> > site that most users get over 300 and when I talked to them last
>>>>> year,
>>>>> > they said because they do not offer cable TV and had fewer
>>>>> subscribers
>>>>> > this meant they had plenty of capacity.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I had the installer pull a brand new cable and run it to my wiring
>>>>> > closet because I was keeping TWC for TV programming and phone for now
>>>>> > -- will try asterisk so Paul's talk was timely.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Using Giggle, the upload is hitting 20 Mbps up but down is less than
>>>>> > TWC at around 50-70 Mbps which is a far cry from 200 Mbps so I was
>>>>> > disappointed.  Now most of my equipment is 10/100 with cat5 home run
>>>>> > to a wiring closet where I have the routers installed (TWC and
>>>>> Giggle)
>>>>> > which can then connect to a switch in the closet then to various
>>>>> drops
>>>>> > in the house including two with switches because I have more
>>>>> equipment
>>>>> > at those locations.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I did upgrade one of the switches to a TP-Link SG108E which is an
>>>>> > 8-port 10/100/1000 smart (web) switch with speed indicator LEDs
>>>>> > (10/100/1000).  It has a menu option to test the connections and it
>>>>> > will report cable lengths in meters as well as confirm connection
>>>>> > speed.  Now the newest router I have is a TP-Link WDR3600 with N600
>>>>> or
>>>>> > an older Netgear WNR200 both of which I was using when I still had
>>>>> > DSL.   Both have 4 gigabit ports but no indicators lights.  Measured
>>>>> > cable distance from remote switch to closet is 18m which is about
>>>>> what
>>>>> > I expected.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For testing WiFi, the only AC device we haver is my son's smartphone,
>>>>> > everything else is G or N speed.  For wired devices, the only thing
>>>>> > where we could run some kind of speed test was the Xbox One and the
>>>>> > best speed we saw was 140 Mbs down and that was when we connecting
>>>>> the
>>>>> > Xbox directly to the modem and cycle power so it will give up an IP.
>>>>> > Otherwise going through the WDR3600, we're getting usually slower
>>>>> than
>>>>> > TWC for download but upload is much better which will be good for
>>>>> > trying to backup to the cloud.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Now when I ordered Giggle Fiber, they suggested I get at least an
>>>>> > AC1900 router, the installer pretty much said the same.  I could see
>>>>> > doing that if we had more AC devices but since most of our equipment
>>>>> > is only N speed, I was hoping that my wired computers would see a
>>>>> nice
>>>>> > speed increase but I'm wondering if my older router just can't push
>>>>> > the data fast enough.  Is this really the case?  The TWC rented Arris
>>>>> > router has 4 gigabit ports and is doing better than the older router.
>>>>> > I have not tried the WNR2000 yet because the specs say its only
>>>>> > capable of N300 wireless.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So does anyone have suggestions for replacing my old router?  I may
>>>>> > need to pick up another gigabit switch for the other room if
>>>>> replacing
>>>>> > the router makes a difference. And the speeds has seemed to get
>>>>> better
>>>>> > since the first day - do modems need to be tuned?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Claude
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Hicks
>> http://www.chicks.net/
>>
>>
>>
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