[SGVLUG] job markets and interviews

[Julie]

Which area do you want to go into?  Hardware?  Software?  Application development?  web based?  desktop based?  mobile based?


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From: Jesse Garcia <aicrag11 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] job markets and interviews


Matti,

 I really enjoyed your info! I am still in school and was looking to see hopefully to get some experience while in school so that by the time I graduate, I have more than just that requirement, I have the experience that many require as well. Being that I'm new to this I don't know how realistic it is for me to think this is possible. I read Dans email and am currently working to learning the skill sets required to apply for his internship. But what do you guys recommend for a beginner in programming, currently still learning C an plan to move up gradually, but I notice on these emails I half the time don't understand . So what kind of studying can I do, aside from school, to learn these things in advanced. Mostly pertaining to programming. Books or anything... Thanks in advanced.

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 8:23 PM, matti <mathew_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:


Hi Julie,
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>I have heard of this, however, I doubt we will see this happen
>with a lot of the tech jobs ( at least the ones which require 
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>experience ). Probably will see it with other jobs.
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>Interviews take time. You can easily expect to take a good 1/2
>day on an on site interview. ( also recruiters may want to see
>you in person also before submitting you to a position. )
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>Most of the time, they will have you interview with multiple
>people on the same day.
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>Since there are very many tech job openings currently for those with
>experience my guess is that if the companies spend too much
>time dragging their feet they will miss a chance to pickup 
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>talent.
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>The funny thing I still see, is the ads on Craigslist asking for the
>world in experience for tech skilled "interns and students" and saying it will be a 
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>good experience and they will pay for your ( gas | lunch | parking | twinkie )
>but not basically pay you, or if they do pay only $10/hr for someone who
>really should be getting paid better ( judging by the requirements.. )
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>Honestly I hope any of these "interns" just go into business themselves,
>as they will probably do better.
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>Also, I am seeing still some 3rd parties who will be getting a great cut
>out of your wages for a short term contract and want to pay you less
>than what others are willing to pay for your skills full time.
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>Honestly, I think they will have a hard time to fill those positions,
>especially those in the Bay Area.
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>What I am also seeing now is that the recruiters are young (i.e. not as
>experienced as I have seen in the past. ) and may have only
>been doing this job for 1-2years. Some are much better than
>others, but sometimes I wonder if they aren't just cold calling
>the HR manager in the first place. A good recruiter should be
>able to get your resume reviewed by the hiring manager.. or
>so you hope.
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>Often I have gotten approached by several recruiters for the same
>position. ( you have to be careful, you only want to be submitted
>once to that job or your resume may get rejected.. )
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>Going to interviews I have found areas which I needed to brush up on,
>as it seems everyone likes to quiz you on tech. So, even if you go
>on a few interviews and get no job offer you will learn what you
>need to focus more on in terms of skill set.
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>The hard part I still see out there is the "catch 22", needing a
>particular type of experience before you can get the job which
>will give you that experience.
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>Thankfully, linux and cloud computing as made this very affordable
>to learn. HOWEVER, if you are in a tight position financially even
>a minimal cost can break your monthly budget.
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>Hope this was useful! 
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>thanks
>matti
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>________________________________
>From: Julie <tearsea88 at yahoo.com>
>To: "sgvlug at sgvlug.org" <sgvlug at sgvlug.org> 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:48 PM
>Subject: [SGVLUG] job markets and interviews
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>Have you also experienced something like this too, Matti?
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>http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/16/11163033-job-candidates-purgatory-multiple-interviews-per-job?lite
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