[SGVLUG] Off-topic - home guerrilla solar systems

[Munjal Thakkar]

Michael is right .... the same electrons don't come back to you, something
to do with grounding and conducting back to the power plant underground or
something, right?

On 2/20/07, Michael Proctor-Smith <mproctor13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/20/07, Emerson, Tom (*IC) <Tom.Emerson at wbconsultant.com> wrote:
> > > -----Original Message----- Of David Lawyer
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 11:42:12PM -0500, Robert Leyva wrote:
> > > > Decided to really look into getting a solar power system to
> > > reduce my
> > > > electrical load, even if it was just for the principal of
> > > the matter.
> > > >
> > > > Found out that there are some kits that provide about 100W AC for
> > > > around $1k.
> > >
> > > Are you sure that it actually saves energy?
> >
> > I think we can put an end-run on the whole discussion with one word:
> > entropy.
> >
> > No matter what you do, eventually "the system as a whole" will lose
> > "energy" -- taanstafl and all that, "no such thing as perpetual motion",
> > etc.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the human animal has this strange notion that shiny
> > flashy metals, such as gold and silver, have an intrinsically valuable
> > property to it that has nothing to do with their physical
> > characteristics, and as a result tend to hoard them.  To facillitate
> > hoarding, they've even gone so far as to create a complex system of
> > currency and taxation as a formalized "barter" system.
> >
> > Throw into this the fact that someone created the concept of energy as
> > "something that can be traded", and the picture gets murky indeed.
> >
> > After all, consider "AC", or "Alternating Current" in the first place --
> > this is the biggest "scam" of them all (according to at least one
> > website -- reference below) -- think about it: what the "power" company
> > is selling you is "electrons", these move into and out of your home at
> > amazing speeds AND they change direction 60 times each second!  While
> > it's true that the path any given electron takes is essentially random,
> > chances are extremely good that a fair number of them that "just left"
> > your house will turn around and re-enter every time the current flow
> > changes, which means that the power company is selling you THE EXACT
> > SAME ELECTRON OVER AND OVER AGAIN ;)
> >
> > [http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/humor.htm -- scroll down to or search for
> > "some 'facts' about electricity"]
> >
> > (while you're there, you might want to check on "Horsepower ratings and
> > AC line magnets"...)
>
> I am not going to read the site but I hope you are kidding the power
> company charges you for the number of electrons that stay in you house
> not the enter, just so no one thinks that the juke is true.
>
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