[SGVLUG] Linux job posting -- any interest?

[sean at seanodonnell.com]

If you want to be bombarded w/ ('sometimes' good matching) job offers from
recruiters and employers, then you should add your resume (w/ phone# =) to
dice.com.

You can also scour indeed.com, monster.com, and/or losangeles.craigslist.org.

I like the 'job alerts' that are provided by monster and dice, which let you
receive daily job 'keyword-searches' via email.

Craigslist and Indeed are also nice because they allow you to subscribe 
to their
(keyword-search) RSS Feeds.

http://rss.indeed.com/rss/q/linux/l/Pasadena%2C_CA

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/search?areaID=7&subAreaID=0&query=linux&catAbbreviation=jjj&format=rss

The majority of the jobs are on the west-side (or in Irvine). Lately, however,
there've been a lot more jobs appearing in Glendale, Pasadena, and Burbank, so
hopefully that will continue in the SGV this year. =)

Recruiters (usually from dice) call me very often. They always ask me to refer
them to someone if I feel someone else would be more interested, and some even
offer referal rewards ($100 generally), but I am not too interested in dealing
w/ recruiters.

Recruiters have a very stressful job, and I feel for them *I couldn't 
do it!*. However, they have wasted my time, one too many times, so 
unless it sounds like
a SUPER hot female recruiter, chances are I won't return their calls. j\k =p

Quoting "Emerson, Tom" <Tom.Emerson at wbconsultant.com>:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> Behalf Of Dustin
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Emerson, Tom wrote:
>>
>> > servicing multiple locations] He apparently found my e-mail "from a
>> > Linux user group discussion thread" [...]
>>
>> Uh, do we really want to aid and abet mailing list scraping
>> like that?
>
> yes and no -- you'll notice I'm acting as a "check valve" here -- I 
> didn't post the [gory] details of the job, just enough that if 
> someone is serious about seeking employment, this may be a good lead 
> for them.  At the same time, it (hopefully) wasn't so much that it 
> would annoy the crap out of the regular readers of this list.  
> (that's what this side discussion is for :) )
>
>> It was mass-mailed to an enormous number of people of whom few are
>> qualified.
>
> I cannot verify how many "enormous" is -- I did indeed ask if he had 
> sent it to "everyone he found on our list" or not, and he admitted "I 
> have sent this to a few others in your area as well", so it gets down 
> to the semantics of "few" vs. "enormous" (for instance, "everyone in 
> southern California" would be "few" in relation to, oh, say "the 
> entire population of China" -- it's all relative ;) )  Of course, I 
> do kind of expect that no matter the actual number, a recruiter will 
> usually say "a few" because it is so conveniently "non-specific"
>
>>  How is this different from other kinds of spam?
>
> not insanely different, I'll admit, but...
>
>> This seems like a good reason to re-visit whether we really want our
>> archives public ...
>
> ...if the recruiter took the time he spent replying to my questions 
> to "sign up" for the SGVLUG list, he could have then "spammed" our 
> list with the job offer directly, so whether or not the list was 
> "archived" would be a moot point [then again, without it being in an 
> archive, would he have found the list to begin with?  who knows?]
>
> In any case, he is (apparently) savvy enough to realize a cold-call 
> to a list is usually considered "bad form" [or knows it just has a 
> lousy ROI] so I'll give him the benefit of doubt to start with.
>
> Now, with all that said, I wonder if it might be worthwhile to 
> organize a "classified" section of our website to allow people to 
> post job offers?  True, anytime you let the "public" post to a 
> website, even in moderation, you'll likely get trash, but at least 
> there would be an avenue for people to post or pursue without 
> "annoying" the majority...
>
>> > me know (off list, please) and I'll forward the full details.
>>
>> One of the details is that the resume is requested in .doc format. :-)
>
> heh heh heh -- yup, and when I pointed that out to him, here was his 
> response:
>
>     "Thank you for the tip about requesting a WORD doc from people 
> that are mostly in the Open Source world.  I will take note of that 
> for sure.
>
> so I'll give him a second point for paying attention... ;)
>
> Tom
>
> p.s. I just checked my server logs (since I told him where I keep my 
> resume online), and it appears he is using firefox 1.0.4, so he can't 
> be all that bad, right? ;)
>