<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span>I just downloaded the Ubuntu 16 iso, Ran Rufus on the usb and then copy the iso to the usb. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492804197867_3084"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492804197867_3083">I changed the boot menu to use " removable device" first but when I reboot it still goes to the installed Fedora2 version.</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 4:08 PM, Jess Bermudes via SGVLUG <sgvlug@sgvlug.net> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9695437344"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>So one trap for newbies in this age where nobody has an optical drive anymore is that the ISOs image files provided by the various distros can't simply be copied to a flash drive and booted off of. You need to use a special program to put the image on the flash drive.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Ubuntu provides instructions for Windows:<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows">https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>And for Mac users:<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos">https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>These instructions should work even if you're not using Ubuntu's images<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv9695437344yqt7922181465" id="yiv9695437344yqt46903"><div class="yiv9695437344gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9695437344gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Claude Felizardo via SGVLUG <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net">sgvlug@sgvlug.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv9695437344gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;">You may also want to consider setting up for dual boot of linux and windows if you have already paid the windows tax and you still have one or more applications that work better (or only) on windows. I've done this with just about every laptop I owned. It's been a while but the last time I looked the distros usually supported this from the install disc.<div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have also used VirtualBox first with an online compiler class where the instructor provided a ready-to-go development environment with all the documentation, tools, assignments and test cases; and for work where I have several images for testing one of our products on different platforms.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Claude</div><div><div class="yiv9695437344h5"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 19, 2017, at 12:02 PM, qun li via SGVLUG <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net">sgvlug@sgvlug.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619779422_6687"><span id="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619779422_6688">I just want to get a all around Linux on the box as an alternative to my win laptop. I lean towards putting it on the hard drive.</span></div> <div class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:51 AM, Bryan Backer via SGVLUG <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net">sgvlug@sgvlug.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317"><div><div dir="ltr">Do you want to install it on your hard drive? Or just boot linux to try it out?<div><br clear="none"></div><div>If you want to just try a distro or two, making a 'livecd' image that is bootable<br clear="none">directly from CD or thumbdrive would probably be a good starting point.</div><div>That would let you try out a distro without installing. Once you find one you</div><div>like, you could then take the next step and install it on your harddrive,</div><div>start booting from that.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>For instance, at <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.centos.org/Download">https://wiki.centos.org/ Download</a></div><div>if you scroll down to the 'Variety of ISO images' section</div><div>you'll see a discussion of a 'livecd' and what that means.</div><div>If you see links on that page for 'liveKDE' or 'liveGNOME' they</div><div>should be bootable, runnable without installation setups, differing</div><div>in their windows manager (KDE vs gnome). </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'd suggest you give those a try, see what you like, then proceed on<br clear="none">to a real install.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>A different alternative for testdriving linux distros is the download virtualbox</div><div>and run a VM on your system and try linux within that. That is a great way<br clear="none">to test drive but requires a little more robust hardware.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317yqt0349418506" id="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317yqt66652"><div class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:41 AM, qun li via SGVLUG <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:sgvlug@sgvlug.net">sgvlug@sgvlug.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317m_5415970882485177844yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619779422_3909">Like Ubuntu etc.? My understanding is download the distribution, get it on an USB and boot on the computer. Is the downloaded distribution bootable without further tingling?</div><div id="yiv9695437344m_5739177842668527864yiv5695263317m_5415970882485177844yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1492619779422_3909">Any recommendation other than Ubuntu?</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>