<p>How many people are invited to help out, and when is this LAN party of sorts taking place?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 3, 2012 10:39 AM, "matti" <<a href="mailto:mathew_2000@yahoo.com">mathew_2000@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Dan,<br>
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Electrical Tape! You'll need a good amount of this, get a good multipack.<br>
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So, the possible complication is that the old holes drilled are done by<br>
<br>
using a small diameter drill bit. To test this this I would go into the attic<br>
one morning about 7am and measure the hole size very carefully.<br>
<br>
Drill a test board to the same hole size and cut 3 pieces of cat6 cable<br>
and electrical tape then together and see if you can easily pull them<br>
through. If so we should be ok.This typically is more of an issue<br>
<br>
upstairs as those drops normally go through 2-3 holed 2x4 vs 1 holed<br>
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board from thecrawl space to the 1st floor.<br>
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( remember to test with coax + 3 cat 6 if you plan to put in coax )<br>
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For placement of any equipment in the attic:<br>
I think the worst case scenario is equipment fire,<br>
so we want to probably think that when placing<br>
equipment.<br>
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We could be super paranoid and<br>
build a drywall lined cabinet for it.<br>
We can probably do well enough with a sturdy<br>
telco grade plywood backer board piece and<br>
just place the equipment so that no one will<br>
want to store "kindling" material above it ;)<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
matti<br>
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Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Buying a spool of ethernet wire - cat5e or cat6? Copper or aluminum? Where? How much?<br>
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Nice old house. We ( myself and some of your classmates )<br>
wired up a few nice old homes. Old homes are really nice as<br>
they have crawl spaces which beat the heck out of slab<br>
construction.<br>
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Happily, I already have wall boxes installed. The previous owner<br>
of the house wired every room for cable TV and telephone.<br>
All I need to do is swap out the old coax + phone wallplates<br>
for 3 or 4 port keystone wall plates, populated with the right keystone bits.<br>
And then magically thread the wiring alongside the old wiring.<br>
Good thing I have a crawlspace and overalls...<br>
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Great! Old walls are great, but do require you to have a cutting<br>
tool to get thru the latte ( wood behind the plaster ) Since this<br>
work is already done we are already ahead of schedule.<br>
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I would get the 4 port plates, you can buy blanks to<br>
cover up the extra hole(s) you wont be using.<br>
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but then maybe you will be using 4th port for old school phone line<br>
( great for emergency ), or for coax.<br>
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> Dan, I have about 4000' of Cat6 left over from my house so you're using Cat6. ;)<br>
Thanks!<br>
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6 locations total. 3 drops each -> 18 drops total<br>
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hmmm.. I would get a 24 port cat6 patch panel.<br>
Or 2x 12 port patch panels if you want a network "closet"<br>
in the attic and one in the basement.<br>
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note - we would have to pull electrical in the attic to were you<br>
would want to place the hub.<br>
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Have you id'ed the run from the basement to the attic yet?<br>
Sometimes that will limit how many wires you can run between the floors.<br>
<br>
normally I prefer to run all the lines in a house to one location<br>
so I get no network bottle necks within the house.<br>
( I mean YOU DO WANT TO bond the lines right... ;)<br>
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so, here is what I would pick up:<br>
( for all lines terminating in the basement or attic.. )<br>
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6x 4 port wall plates<br>
maybe some blanks to plug the extra holes.<br>
18x cat6 keystones - tooled ones probably better than tool-less.. so I have been told<br>
( you do have a punch down tool right ;)<br>
maybe coax keystones<br>
maybe new coax cable ( or keep old one if ok )<br>
1x 24 port cat6 patch panel<br>
some wood/plywood to build NOC wall/shelf..<br>
short cat6 patch cables to go from patch panel to switch ( ? 10" 12"?)<br>
zip ties which have a screw hole at one end so we can use to secure wires to beams.<br>
dry wall screws ( hint OSH has these in bulk bins for a good deal 1lb for $2.50 or so.. )<br>
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if you need to run electrical to your switch/switches:<br>
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armored flex wire ( 2 conductors, 14g for 15AMP.. )<br>
metal electrical box ( 2 gang, thus can put in 4 sockets )<br>
2x dual 15AMP sockets ( i like the heavy duty ones. but thats extra $ )<br>
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Now, if you are like me you want to actually put in a separate 20AMP<br>
circuit to feed your 20AMP UPS which can keep your network up for..<br>
oh 24hrs without power... hmmm.. I think Tom may have had 30AMPs for<br>
the mini he had... but i digress..<br>
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possible extra circuit breaker if you want to run your NOC on a separate<br>
circuit ( my preference, as it sucks to have your network shutdown when<br>
someone uses the microwave or drys their hair ;)<br>
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should be a fun party!<br>
matti<br>
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