<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div>Indeed!!! The more I look at this the more I think everyone should be against it.</div><div><br></div><div>It is really bad. Hopefully we can get enough people to see the videos</div><div>and understand what this type of legislation means.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Matthew Campbell <dvdmatt@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug@sgvlug.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:38 AM<br> <b><span
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<meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv305240629">Matti,<br><br>You don't mention the passages in SOPA that define you as 'dedicated to the theft of US property' if you "Take Deliberate actions to avoid confirming a high probability that [the site] violates [any of various laws and section of this code]".<br>
<br>You could be legally defined as a pirate if you, for example, put a password on your computer or encrypt a file.<br><br>Ugh. Super badly written legislation.<br><br>Matt<br><br clear="all">---------<br><b style="color:rgb(51,102,102);">Matthew Campbell</b><br>
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<br><br><div class="yiv305240629gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:28 AM, matti <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mathew_2000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mathew_2000@yahoo.com">mathew_2000@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv305240629gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Indeed, It is certainly FAR from over. DMCA was not enough for<br>
many, even though there are significant over reaches due to that<br>
law <br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-under-dmca">https://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-under-dmca</a> <br>
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Like storm waves hitting a beach, expect attempts at erosion of<br>
the current state to continue.<br>
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The read is rather disturbing, including border searches<br>
"Newspapers reported that the draft agreement would empower security officials at airports and other international borders to conduct random ex officio searches of laptops, MP3 players, and cellular phones for illegally downloaded or "ripped" music and movies. Travellers with infringing content would be subject to a fine and may have their devices confiscated or destroyed"<br>
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( especially considering the recent Colo. Judge stating that<br>
users can be forced to decrypt their laptops.. )<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57364330-281/judge-americans-can-be-forced-to-decrypt-their-laptops/">http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57364330-281/judge-americans-can-be-forced-to-decrypt-their-laptops/</a> <br>
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More on ACTA:<br>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement<br>
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<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.eff.org/">https://www.eff.org/</a><br>
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So, the question will become once one of these waves<br>
successfully passes, WHEN will a linux/opensource project<br>
get a legal take down upon a claim of patent infringement??<br>
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:29 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] TED on SOPA and PIPA<br>
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Has anyone heard of ACTA? If this is legit, I think this fight is far from over.<br>
Sent from mobile.<br>
On Jan 20, 2012 11:28 PM, "Miguel Hernandez" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:migtek@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:migtek@gmail.com">migtek@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Just watched this. It's a great/short talk that gives a really good short history on how we got to SOPA/PIPA. Thanks for sharing, Matti!<br>
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>--miguel <br>
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