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Matt,<br>You didn't ask, but I have a Sprint Hero - an Android.<br><br>My plan is reasonably priced and there are free apps that can make chocolate chip cookies and trim your toenails at the same time. BUT the <u>touch screen</u> is EXCEEDINGLY frustrating - as a business tool it's a really bad telephone for that reason.<br><br>E.g., it will make calls when I'm trying to change screens; <br>I can't hit the call cancel button and get a quick response;<br>Sometimes a screen (app) will open that I haven't been near for weeks;<br>And many etc.'s.<br><br>A quick feel test may be deceptive.<br>Phone savvy female teeners say this happens with any touchscreen, so it's not just old guy complaints.<br>Jim<br><br><br>> From: sgvlug-request@sgvlug.net<br>> Subject: SGVLUG Digest, Vol 259, Issue 1<br>> To: sgvlug@sgvlug.net<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:32:30 -0700<br>> <br>> Send SGVLUG mailing list submissions to<br>> sgvlug@sgvlug.net<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> http://www.sgvlug.net/mailman/listinfo/sgvlug<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> sgvlug-request@sgvlug.net<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> sgvlug-owner@sgvlug.net<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of SGVLUG digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Droid phone recommendations (Matt Campbell)<br>> 2. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Julie)<br>> 3. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Eric Hammond)<br>> 4. Re: Droid phone recommendations (John E. Kreznar)<br>> 5. Google Voice (Stan Slonkosky)<br>> 6. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Matt Campbell)<br>> 7. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Stan Slonkosky)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:03:56 -0700<br>> From: "Matt Campbell" <dvdmatt@gmail.com><br>> Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> To: "'SGVLUG Discussion List.'" <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Message-ID: <000601cb1822$6c2e4f00$448aed00$@com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> Happy afternoon all,<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a free man.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of these<br>> devices?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem<br>> <br>> http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> MiFiT2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot<br>> <br>> http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC<br>> <br>> http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Motorola Droid X<br>> <br>> http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-x/11040.html<br>> <br>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-cleare<br>> st-off-the-cuff-preview/<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> The Motorola Droid 2<br>> <br>> http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs<br>> <br>> http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Yours in research of the truth,<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Matt<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://www.sgvlug.net/pipermail/sgvlug/attachments/20100630/71677b38/attachment-0001.html <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:03:35 -0700 (PDT)<br>> From: Julie <tearsea88@yahoo.com><br>> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Message-ID: <792711.49908.qm@web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> The first 2 aren't phones.<br>> <br>> Looks like you're targetting Verizon as your new carrier? My suggestion would <br>> be to test out the devices in the store to see how you actually like the phone. <br>> I'm a pretty picky cellphone person and if the device feels too bulky and/or <br>> cheap, that's out.<br>> <br>> Next, mark down which phone you like from the physical test and read up on the <br>> reviews. The reviews (whether its from verizon.com customer reviews or CNET <br>> tech review) been pretty good and accurate online. CNET gives out excellent, <br>> detailed reviews.<br>> <br>> Good luck! Not sure how urgent you'll need a phone but you can also ask the <br>> sales rep. at the store when the next batch of new phones will be in. I tend to <br>> like HTC's Android phone. The new Sprint EVO 4G (Droid on a HTC) phone seems <br>> really slick and a close contender to the iPhone - unless of course, you had a <br>> problem with the phone and not the service. I have yet to find someone who <br>> actually dislike the phone more than the service provider.<br>> <br>> FYI, iPhone coming to Verizon - the latest rumor is Jan. 2011. But I been <br>> hoping for it for 2 yrs. already. I won't bet money on it.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Matt Campbell <dvdmatt@gmail.com><br>> To: SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 12:03:56 AM<br>> Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> <br>> <br>> Happy afternoon all,<br>> <br>> I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a free man.<br>> <br>> Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of these <br>> devices?<br>> <br>> Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem<br>> http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85<br>> <br>> MiFi?2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot<br>> http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d<br>> <br>> DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC<br>> http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32<br>> <br>> Motorola Droid X<br>> http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-x/11040.html<br>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-clearest-off-the-cuff-preview/<br>> <br>> <br>> The Motorola Droid 2<br>> http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs<br>> http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5<br>> <br>> Yours in research of the truth,<br>> <br>> Matt<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://www.sgvlug.net/pipermail/sgvlug/attachments/20100630/eaadb680/attachment-0001.html <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:05:07 -0700<br>> From: Eric Hammond <ehammond@thinksome.com><br>> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Message-ID: <cd4cc5fb-3a86-4cc8-b837-739b7432778b@email.android.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br>> <br>> I'm thrilled with my HTC EVO and have been a happy Sprint customer for years in LA. As far as I can tell it's better than the iphone 4 in most ways, but I try to avoid religious arguments. <br>> <br>> With the EVO you don't need a separate usb modem or hotspot because it has built in hotspot wifi for only $30 more a month with unlimited data, compared to $60 for 5GB per month for my Verizon USB modem, which I am now cancelingy. <br>> --<br>> Eric Hammond<br>> <br>> "Julie" <tearsea88@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> >Hi,<br>> ><br>> >The first 2 aren't phones.<br>> ><br>> >Looks like you're targetting Verizon as your new carrier? My suggestion would <br>> >be to test out the devices in the store to see how you actually like the phone. <br>> > I'm a pretty picky cellphone person and if the device feels too bulky and/or <br>> >cheap, that's out.<br>> ><br>> >Next, mark down which phone you like from the physical test and read up on the <br>> >reviews. The reviews (whether its from verizon.com customer reviews or CNET <br>> >tech review) been pretty good and accurate online. CNET gives out excellent, <br>> >detailed reviews.<br>> ><br>> >Good luck! Not sure how urgent you'll need a phone but you can also ask the <br>> >sales rep. at the store when the next batch of new phones will be in. I tend to <br>> >like HTC's Android phone. The new Sprint EVO 4G (Droid on a HTC) phone seems <br>> >really slick and a close contender to the iPhone - unless of course, you had a <br>> >problem with the phone and not the service. I have yet to find someone who <br>> >actually dislike the phone more than the service provider.<br>> ><br>> >FYI, iPhone coming to Verizon - the latest rumor is Jan. 2011. But I been <br>> >hoping for it for 2 yrs. already. I won't bet money on it.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >________________________________<br>> >From: Matt Campbell <dvdmatt@gmail.com><br>> >To: SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> >Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 12:03:56 AM<br>> >Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> ><br>> > <br>> >Happy afternoon all,<br>> > <br>> >I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a free man.<br>> > <br>> >Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of these <br>> >devices?<br>> > <br>> >Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem<br>> >http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85<br>> > <br>> >MiFi?2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot<br>> >http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d<br>> > <br>> >DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC<br>> >http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32<br>> > <br>> >Motorola Droid X<br>> >http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-x/11040.html<br>> >http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-clearest-off-the-cuff-preview/<br>> ><br>> > <br>> >The Motorola Droid 2<br>> >http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs<br>> >http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5<br>> > <br>> >Yours in research of the truth,<br>> > <br>> >Matt<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:48:22 -0700<br>> From: "John E. Kreznar" <jek@ininx.com><br>> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Message-ID: <E1OTkKD-0007Yl-Lr@iflig.ininx.com><br>> <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>> <br>> Delightful to see this talk about Droid phones.<br>> <br>> A friend has recently acquired a Droid, and needs OpenPGP encryption<br>> on it for email. Anyone know how to do that?<br>> <br>> > X-User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android<br>> <br>> Does K-9 Mail do OpenPGP? (Can you give a pointer to K-9 docs?)<br>> <br>> Does Android do Thunderbird? (TB has Enigmail, which is OpenPGP.)<br>> <br>> - -- <br>> John E. Kreznar jek@ininx.com 9F1148454619A5F08550 705961A47CC541AFEF13<br>> Email is the culmination of communication. Voice, and all else, if<br>> done at all, is ephemeral preliminary to the email. Email allows<br>> escape from the tyranny of forced extemporization.<br>> <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>> Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8+ <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/><br>> <br>> iEYEARECAAYFAkwrEmEACgkQYaR8xUGv7xOorACfaUpQ7cx7zockIid93UFjMcKH<br>> nNQAnRu+nhiB1xAVJgjMmK+R3Zzr847B<br>> =ov3f<br>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 5<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:01:04 -0700<br>> From: Stan Slonkosky <stan.ke6zc@gmail.com><br>> Subject: [SGVLUG] Google Voice<br>> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <AANLkTim9cle9mc5-Pqtd962ETzvVU1B8B4CUseWEby1A@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> <br>> As of last week, you no longer need an invite to sign up for Google<br>> Voice as long as you are a US resident.<br>> <br>> Also, Google Voice SMS now works with short codes (e.g., 40404 for<br>> Twitter). It used to work only for complete 10-digit pohne numbers.<br>> Since Google Voice is free, this means that the expensive text<br>> messaging plans offered by the carriers are no longer needed.<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Stan Slonkosky<br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 6<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:05:29 -0700<br>> From: "Matt Campbell" <dvdmatt@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> To: "'SGVLUG Discussion List.'" <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Message-ID: <002c01cb1876$75b6c170$61244450$@com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Thanks Eric for your thoughts.<br>> <br>> The note on the USB modem is quite helpful. The X and possibly the 2 also allow the phone to retransmit and in effect become a mobile hotspot.<br>> <br>> Thanks also for your endorsement of the Google phone. I have not had a chance to use one much, but from what I have heard from people it's the right platform for me.<br>> <br>> Matt<br>> <br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From: sgvlug-bounces@sgvlug.net [mailto:sgvlug-bounces@sgvlug.net] On<br>> > Behalf Of Eric Hammond<br>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 AM<br>> > To: SGVLUG Discussion List.<br>> > Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> > <br>> > I'm thrilled with my HTC EVO and have been a happy Sprint customer for<br>> > years in LA. As far as I can tell it's better than the iphone 4 in<br>> > most ways, but I try to avoid religious arguments.<br>> > <br>> > With the EVO you don't need a separate usb modem or hotspot because it<br>> > has built in hotspot wifi for only $30 more a month with unlimited<br>> > data, compared to $60 for 5GB per month for my Verizon USB modem, which<br>> > I am now cancelingy.<br>> > --<br>> > Eric Hammond<br>> > <br>> > "Julie" <tearsea88@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> > <br>> > >Hi,<br>> > ><br>> > >The first 2 aren't phones.<br>> > ><br>> > >Looks like you're targetting Verizon as your new carrier? My<br>> > suggestion would<br>> > >be to test out the devices in the store to see how you actually like<br>> > the phone.<br>> > > I'm a pretty picky cellphone person and if the device feels too bulky<br>> > and/or<br>> > >cheap, that's out.<br>> > ><br>> > >Next, mark down which phone you like from the physical test and read<br>> > up on the<br>> > >reviews. The reviews (whether its from verizon.com customer reviews<br>> > or CNET<br>> > >tech review) been pretty good and accurate online. CNET gives out<br>> > excellent,<br>> > >detailed reviews.<br>> > ><br>> > >Good luck! Not sure how urgent you'll need a phone but you can also<br>> > ask the<br>> > >sales rep. at the store when the next batch of new phones will be in.<br>> > I tend to<br>> > >like HTC's Android phone. The new Sprint EVO 4G (Droid on a HTC)<br>> > phone seems<br>> > >really slick and a close contender to the iPhone - unless of course,<br>> > you had a<br>> > >problem with the phone and not the service. I have yet to find<br>> > someone who<br>> > >actually dislike the phone more than the service provider.<br>> > ><br>> > >FYI, iPhone coming to Verizon - the latest rumor is Jan. 2011. But I<br>> > been<br>> > >hoping for it for 2 yrs. already. I won't bet money on it.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > >________________________________<br>> > >From: Matt Campbell <dvdmatt@gmail.com><br>> > >To: SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> > >Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 12:03:56 AM<br>> > >Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > >Happy afternoon all,<br>> > ><br>> > >I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a<br>> > free man.<br>> > ><br>> > >Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of<br>> > these<br>> > >devices?<br>> > ><br>> > >Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem<br>> > >http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85<br>> > ><br>> > >MiFi?2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot<br>> > >http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d<br>> > ><br>> > >DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC<br>> > >http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32<br>> > ><br>> > >Motorola Droid X<br>> > >http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-<br>> > x/11040.html<br>> > >http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-<br>> > clearest-off-the-cuff-preview/<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > >The Motorola Droid 2<br>> > >http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs<br>> > >http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5<br>> > ><br>> > >Yours in research of the truth,<br>> > ><br>> > >Matt<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 7<br>> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:24:31 -0700<br>> From: Stan Slonkosky <stan.ke6zc@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations<br>> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug@sgvlug.net><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <AANLkTim77q1UMlouy5rbEg3kTuyrZT4fJL8rtMDJi95L@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> <br>> I haven't tried to do this yet, but I have a Droid and I believe if<br>> you Google around, there is a way to use it as a hotspot, though I<br>> think this requires rooting the phone. I have been using PDAnet from<br>> junefabrics.com , which costs about $30 and only connects via USB or<br>> Bluetooth.<br>> <br>> Check out cyanogenmod.com for information on changing the firmware on<br>> several Android phones. I used this when I had a T-Mobile Mytouch, but<br>> I returned that phone because of limited 3G coverage. I haven't yet<br>> tried this on my Droid.<br>> <br>> Anyone needing only 3G data could go to<br>> http://3gstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=402_407 and sign up<br>> for a no-contract $50/month lease that uses Verizon. 3G Store offers<br>> this as a way for people not to get locked into a 2-year contract<br>> since 4G should be available before the contract is up. See the web<br>> site for the details and costs. You do have to pay something for the<br>> modem and then return it when you no longer want to use it.<br>> <br>> I saw notices around Pasadena in April about hearings for Clearwire<br>> and I assume this is for their 4G rollout which is supposed to happen<br>> later this year. Sprint owns 51% of Clearwire. As far as I know, the<br>> closest Sprint/Clearwire 4G service areas are Las Vegas and a small<br>> area in Santa Clara.<br>> -- <br>> Stan Slonkosky<br>> <br>> <br>> End of SGVLUG Digest, Vol 259, Issue 1<br>> **************************************<br> <br /><hr />The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. <a href='http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3' target='_new'>Get started.</a></body>
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