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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Dan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Nice. Is this something that Fedora doesn’t do for legal
paranoia reasons, or is there and RPM that adds NTFS functionality? I looked,
but didn’t see anything obvious. Has anyone used or could recommend one
of these?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ntfs-3g – Linux NTFS userspace driver (What is a
userspace driver? A real driver which doesn’t run in system space?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ntfsprogs – NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>dkms-ntfs – Driver for reading and writing on NTFS
formatted volumes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ntfs-config – A front-end to Enable/disable NTFS write
support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Matt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sgvlug-bounces@sgvlug.net
[mailto:sgvlug-bounces@sgvlug.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan Borne<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SGVLUG Discussion List.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SGVLUG] FW: Hard drive question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Mandriva and OpenSuse I have
no problem dealing with NFTS drives. You could always take it out of the bay...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>2008/3/17, Claude Felizardo <<a
href="mailto:cafelizardo@gmail.com">cafelizardo@gmail.com</a>>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Matt Campbell <<a
href="mailto:dvdmatt@gmail.com">dvdmatt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> This was sent a couple of weeks ago, but was rejected by the server,
anyone<br>
> have any suggestions?<br>
><br>
> Matt<br>
><br>
> From: Matthew Campbell<br>
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:02 AM<br>
> To: 'SGVLUG Discussion List.'<br>
> Subject: Hard drive question<br>
><br>
> I have an interesting problem I have been struggling with.<br>
><br>
> I have a 260G LaCie USB drive that I have been using under Windows for
some<br>
> time.<br>
><br>
> I had a data error on it, so I tried to format the drive. I get
the message<br>
> "Format didn't complete successfully". When I try and
copy data to the<br>
> drive I get a "write failed" error around 11% of the way through
the copy.<br>
><br>
> I can fdisk, mkfs.exxt3 and copy 100Gig to it fine under Linux.<br>
><br>
> I can delete that partition under windows, but when I try and create a new<br>
> partition it fails immediately.<br>
><br>
> I would like to transfer some video files to a Windows user with this
drive.<br>
> I could DOS format the drive, but then it couldn't handle the large video<br>
> files.<br>
><br>
> I don't think I can format the drive NTFS under Linux.<br>
><br>
> As far as I know there is no longer such a thing as a low level hard drive<br>
> format.<br>
><br>
> So, what are my options?<br>
><br>
> Is there a file system I can create under Linux which can handle large
files<br>
> that the DOS user can read?<br>
><br>
> Is there a way to recover this drive so that it can be partitioned or<br>
> formatted under Windoze? Would wiping the partition table allow
Windows to<br>
> start fresh?<br>
><br>
> Is there a utility under Linux that can rescan the drive and mark any new<br>
> bad sectors? Is this what could be tripping up the Windows
format?<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.<br>
><br>
> Matt<br>
<br>
<br>
I really don't like external USB drives because you can't check the<br>
status of the drive. It could be getting soft errors until it runs<br>
out of spare sectors then it's toast.<br>
<br>
First guess, I'd say windows doesn't like the partition table. What<br>
does fdisk -l /dev/sd? report?<br>
<br>
Using Linux, you could delete all the partitions and then create one<br>
big partition and format it and have it check for bad sectors. Use<br>
FAT32. On my desktop here at work, I use partition id 0x0b which<br>
fdisk reports as "W95 FAT32". Largest file size for FAT32
is 4 GB I<br>
think.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, you could use Linux to wipe out the partition table or<br>
possibly create the NTFS partition but let windows do the formatting.<br>
<br>
However its sounds like the drive may have issues. If possible, I'd<br>
put it into a desktop and try and use spinrite to perform a low level<br>
format. Catch is it requires DOS/windoze and you must have a valid<br>
partition table. I've used it to bring a marginal disk back to life<br>
but the drive would usually fail within a few years.<br>
<br>
I also used to use partition magic 8 (yet another dos/windoze tool)<br>
and it works fine for FAT32 and ext2/3 partitions but it has issues<br>
with NFTS. I really wish they'd update that tool but there's been no<br>
updates since symantec/norton bought them out.<br>
<br>
If anyone has used comparable Linux tools, I'd like to hear about it.<br>
<br>
<br>
claude<o:p></o:p></p>
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