Michael is right .... the same electrons don't come back to you, something to do with grounding and conducting back to the power plant underground or something, right? <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/20/07,
<b class="gmail_sendername">Michael Proctor-Smith</b> <<a href="mailto:mproctor13@gmail.com">mproctor13@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On 2/20/07, Emerson, Tom (*IC) <<a href="mailto:Tom.Emerson@wbconsultant.com">Tom.Emerson@wbconsultant.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > -----Original Message----- Of David Lawyer<br>> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 11:42:12PM -0500, Robert Leyva wrote:
<br>> > > Decided to really look into getting a solar power system to<br>> > reduce my<br>> > > electrical load, even if it was just for the principal of<br>> > the matter.<br>> > ><br>
> > > Found out that there are some kits that provide about 100W AC for<br>> > > around $1k.<br>> ><br>> > Are you sure that it actually saves energy?<br>><br>> I think we can put an end-run on the whole discussion with one word:
<br>> entropy.<br>><br>> No matter what you do, eventually "the system as a whole" will lose<br>> "energy" -- taanstafl and all that, "no such thing as perpetual motion",<br>> etc.
<br>><br>> Unfortunately, the human animal has this strange notion that shiny<br>> flashy metals, such as gold and silver, have an intrinsically valuable<br>> property to it that has nothing to do with their physical
<br>> characteristics, and as a result tend to hoard them. To facillitate<br>> hoarding, they've even gone so far as to create a complex system of<br>> currency and taxation as a formalized "barter" system.
<br>><br>> Throw into this the fact that someone created the concept of energy as<br>> "something that can be traded", and the picture gets murky indeed.<br>><br>> After all, consider "AC", or "Alternating Current" in the first place --
<br>> this is the biggest "scam" of them all (according to at least one<br>> website -- reference below) -- think about it: what the "power" company<br>> is selling you is "electrons", these move into and out of your home at
<br>> amazing speeds AND they change direction 60 times each second! While<br>> it's true that the path any given electron takes is essentially random,<br>> chances are extremely good that a fair number of them that "just left"
<br>> your house will turn around and re-enter every time the current flow<br>> changes, which means that the power company is selling you THE EXACT<br>> SAME ELECTRON OVER AND OVER AGAIN ;)<br>><br>> [<a href="http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/humor.htm">
http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/humor.htm</a> -- scroll down to or search for<br>> "some 'facts' about electricity"]<br>><br>> (while you're there, you might want to check on "Horsepower ratings and
<br>> AC line magnets"...)<br><br>I am not going to read the site but I hope you are kidding the power<br>company charges you for the number of electrons that stay in you house<br>not the enter, just so no one thinks that the juke is true.
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