Tom,<br>
Thanks again! Kivio is what I'm looking for. Combined with <a href="http://openclipart.com">openclipart.com</a> and I'm set.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/26/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tom Emerson</b> <
<a href="mailto:osnut@pacbell.net">osnut@pacbell.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Michael B. Parker wrote:<br>> I know it's Windows, but latest (2003) MS Visio<br>> (<a href="http://office.microsoft.com/visio">http://office.microsoft.com/visio</a>) is pretty impressive.<br><br>
> Maybe Visio could run in some ... Windows compatibility program as <a href="http://www.WineHQ.Com">www.WineHQ.Com</a> .<br><br>crossover office, perhaps? [I think this is a version of wine tailored<br>to the MS suite of office products; yes, you have to buy it, but the
<br>price is reasonable for individuals]<br><br>> Anyway, I'd be curious what, if any, native Linux programs are<br>> compatible, and be surprised if any could match it.<br><br>Presumably, "the" direct Linux equivalent of "Visio" is "Kivio" --
<br>marketed by a former colleague of mine, (the Kompany) but also available<br>as part of koffice. This is an interesting case re the GPL -- as the<br>original authors, they offer it under two variations: Kivio for KOffice
<br>and Kivio MP; the KDE/Koffice version is GPL, while they have their own<br>"restricted source license" for the MP (multi-platform) version<br>[basically, they will give you the source and the right to modify it,
<br>but they do NOT grant the right to redistribute it nor defeat the<br>license verification process or remove/alter trademarks and logos] I'd<br>submit that this sort of license is an "on your honor" sort of deal as,
<br>frankly, I don't see any way for them to enforce the provisions. OTOH,<br>If/when "the Kompany" goes the way of the wind, you would at least have<br>the source code...<br><br>Some clarification from the Kompany's webpage:
<br><br> "Kivio for KOffice was originally released in October 2000 and<br>added to the KDE/KOffice project in January 2001, we saw the 1.0 release<br>of that in April 2001. Kivio is a Visio (tm) style of application that
<br>allows you to easily create diagrams and charts by using a large library<br>of pre-defined "stencils" cover a wide range of topics, you can see the<br>complete list of available stencils here. When we donated the Kivio
<br>application to KOffice, we also included our Basic Flowcharting stencil,<br>but you can purchase additional stencils at a cost of between $5 and $10<br>each to get what you need. Keep in mind that this version of Kivio is
<br>typically pre-loaded on any Linux distribution, but also only runs on<br>Linux under KDE.<br><br>A common question is "What is the difference between Kivio for KOffice<br>and Kivio mp. Well, we had a tremendous amount of interest in Kivio, but
<br>also a lot of requests for it on other platforms like Windows and Mac OS<br>X, so we took the opportunity to rewrite the application as a Qt<br>application, redo the core engine so that it also supported generic<br>vector drawing system like Corel Draw. In addition our new engine
<br>allowed us to add a lot of features that are not available in the<br>KOffice version, but the distribution model is virtually the same..."<br><br>Note also that "Kivio MP" appears under the PRODUCTS tab, while "Kivio"
<br>alone (the Koffice version) appears under PROJECTS.<br><br>- --<br>Top o' the Blog: It's good to be the King...<br><a href="http://osnut.homelinux.net/mtblog/ya_index.html">http://osnut.homelinux.net/mtblog/ya_index.html
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