[SGVLUG] ATT DSL Gateway choices, which gateway do you like?

[Eric Gillingham]

I should note both the 2wire uverse router and the normal dsl modem att
provided to me had a bridge mode setting I used just fine to bypass their
lack of functionality.
On Aug 13, 2012 3:22 PM, "Dan Buthusiem" <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, and Doug, just buy a cheapie single port ADSL2+ modem and put it into
> bridge mode. Make sure you set the DSL config to VPI 0 / VCI 35, then use
> the router of your choice. 2Wire equipment doesn't seem to be made with the
> end user's needs in mind. If you're a regular home user, it'll suffice. If
> you're a nerd (hint: if you're on our list, you probably resemble that
> description - one of us, one of us), you'll learn to hate them the more you
> try to push it.
> On Aug 13, 2012 2:58 PM, "Dan Buthusiem" <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I deal with them regularly, and anything I haven't learned from their
>> Level 2 techs, I got from digging through forums, wikipedia links, and over
>> 5 years of trial and error at work. Glad I could be of service. If Matti
>> still needs a spare modem, I still have it ready to lend. Also, I'm happy
>> to answer any other questions if anyone has them. :)
>>
>> - Dan B.
>> On Aug 13, 2012 2:12 PM, "Matthew Campbell" <dvdmatt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice explanation Dan, great support too.  I wish they would take a
>>> lesson from you!
>>>
>>> We all really appreciate useful responses like this one from our
>>> friends.  This really is a great LUG.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>  On Aug 13, 2012 8:10 AM, "Dan Buthusiem" <dan.buthusiem at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doug, can you get me your line levels? In the usual screens for that
>>>> info, there should be something labeled "_____ path" with either
>>>> 'interleaved' or 'fast' as a value. Fast path gives you lower pings
>>>> (10-20ms), but is less resilient against noise. Interleaved can handle
>>>> noisier lines, at a cost of having a higher ping (45-70ms). My guess is the
>>>> tech changed your config in the DSLAM to compensate for a deteriorating
>>>> line. A Level 2 tech can explain it to you if you're savvy enough to hold
>>>> on to all the frequency explanations. You can have the tech remotely change
>>>> you back to fast path if you're on interleaved, but if you start having
>>>> sync problems, you'll have to go back.
>>>> On Aug 13, 2012 1:28 AM, "Doug" <dougvargas at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ugh story of my life...I USED to have under 10ms ping to my favorite
>>>>> counter strike server, att came out and made "repairs" and now I'm lucky if
>>>>> I get 50, it's a great quantitative measurement of how much they suck lol.
>>>>> Not to mention that their static ip service comes with a router THAT WON'T
>>>>> ROUTE IP ADDRESSES. I'm going to be switching isps, my deepest sympathies
>>>>> that you can't :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew Campbell <dvdmatt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >I have uVerse and POTS.  They never asked me to drop one for the
>>>>> other.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I had a 6Mbit connection for years, then AT&T 'upgraded' wiring in our
>>>>> >neighborhood and my rate dropped to 2.  I called, I complained, I
>>>>> ranted
>>>>> >and raved and they insisted that I had never had better than 2 and
>>>>> that I
>>>>> >should go away.  I ended up having to cut the wire to my house and
>>>>> hook the
>>>>> >modem up outside to show them the poor rate.  They came out and fixed
>>>>> it,
>>>>> >back to 6Mb/s finally!  Four weeks later it dropped back to 2.  I
>>>>> ranted
>>>>> >and raved and they eventually fixed it.  Four months later it dropped
>>>>> >again.  This time they fixed it in 48 hours.  All in all, just
>>>>> counting the
>>>>> >hours I have logged I have spent 92 unpaid hours on the phone with
>>>>> AT&T
>>>>> >sorting out their incorrect billing or crappy service over the last 2
>>>>> years.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >They are the worst company I have ever had the misfortune to deal
>>>>> with.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >And they have the government backed monopoly in my neighborhood, no
>>>>> way to
>>>>> >change to anything else.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Matt
>>>>> >
>>>>> >P.S.  In their favor their billing was never off more than $500 and
>>>>> they
>>>>> >didn't cut my service more than twice due to their own internal
>>>>> billing
>>>>> >mistakes.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >---------
>>>>> >*Matthew Campbell*
>>>>> >Storage Solution Consultant
>>>>> >Storage Design and Engineering
>>>>> >
>>>>> >*Kaiser Permanente*
>>>>> >IMG-Systems Integration
>>>>> >99 S. Oakland
>>>>> >Pasadena, CA 91101
>>>>> >
>>>>> >626-564-7228 (office)
>>>>> >8-338-7228 (tie-line)
>>>>> >818-314-9897 (mobile phone)
>>>>> >Green Center 3-North, 031W29
>>>>> >---------
>>>>> >*kp.org/thrive*
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Scott Packard <spackard at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> > Just make sure you still have a regular copper drop in the event
>>>>> of an
>>>>> >> emergency. Sure, the VoIP gateway has a hefty battery backup, but I
>>>>> still
>>>>> >> prefer having an old fashioned phone line just in case (911 doesn't
>>>>> require
>>>>> >> a phone service account with telco, just a working jack with dial
>>>>> tone).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You can't.  If you sign up for Uverse they force you off of POTS.
>>>>> >> I've been there, tried that.  Fought that.  Wrote letters.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Regards, Scott
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Dan Buthusiem <
>>>>> dan.buthusiem at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Just make sure you still have a regular copper drop in the event
>>>>> of an
>>>>> >>> emergency. Sure, the VoIP gateway has a hefty battery backup, but
>>>>> I still
>>>>> >>> prefer having an old fashioned phone line just in case (911
>>>>> doesn't require
>>>>> >>> a phone service account with telco, just a working jack with dial
>>>>> tone).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>
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