[SGVLUG] SGVLUG Digest, Vol 259, Issue 1
Jim Broderick
jfbroderick at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 1 12:58:35 PDT 2010
Matt,
You didn't ask, but I have a Sprint Hero - an Android.
My plan is reasonably priced and there are free apps that can make chocolate chip cookies and trim your toenails at the same time. BUT the touch screen is EXCEEDINGLY frustrating - as a business tool it's a really bad telephone for that reason.
E.g., it will make calls when I'm trying to change screens;
I can't hit the call cancel button and get a quick response;
Sometimes a screen (app) will open that I haven't been near for weeks;
And many etc.'s.
A quick feel test may be deceptive.
Phone savvy female teeners say this happens with any touchscreen, so it's not just old guy complaints.
Jim
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> 1. Droid phone recommendations (Matt Campbell)
> 2. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Julie)
> 3. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Eric Hammond)
> 4. Re: Droid phone recommendations (John E. Kreznar)
> 5. Google Voice (Stan Slonkosky)
> 6. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Matt Campbell)
> 7. Re: Droid phone recommendations (Stan Slonkosky)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:03:56 -0700
> From: "Matt Campbell" <dvdmatt at gmail.com>
> Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> To: "'SGVLUG Discussion List.'" <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
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> Happy afternoon all,
>
>
>
> I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a free man.
>
>
>
> Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of these
> devices?
>
>
>
> Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85
>
>
>
> MiFiT2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot
>
> http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d
>
>
>
> DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32
>
>
>
> Motorola Droid X
>
> http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-x/11040.html
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-cleare
> st-off-the-cuff-preview/
>
>
>
> The Motorola Droid 2
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5
>
>
>
> Yours in research of the truth,
>
>
>
> Matt
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 01:03:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Julie <tearsea88 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Message-ID: <792711.49908.qm at web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Hi,
>
> The first 2 aren't phones.
>
> Looks like you're targetting Verizon as your new carrier? My suggestion would
> be to test out the devices in the store to see how you actually like the phone.
> I'm a pretty picky cellphone person and if the device feels too bulky and/or
> cheap, that's out.
>
> Next, mark down which phone you like from the physical test and read up on the
> reviews. The reviews (whether its from verizon.com customer reviews or CNET
> tech review) been pretty good and accurate online. CNET gives out excellent,
> detailed reviews.
>
> Good luck! Not sure how urgent you'll need a phone but you can also ask the
> sales rep. at the store when the next batch of new phones will be in. I tend to
> like HTC's Android phone. The new Sprint EVO 4G (Droid on a HTC) phone seems
> really slick and a close contender to the iPhone - unless of course, you had a
> problem with the phone and not the service. I have yet to find someone who
> actually dislike the phone more than the service provider.
>
> FYI, iPhone coming to Verizon - the latest rumor is Jan. 2011. But I been
> hoping for it for 2 yrs. already. I won't bet money on it.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matt Campbell <dvdmatt at gmail.com>
> To: SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 12:03:56 AM
> Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
>
>
> Happy afternoon all,
>
> I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a free man.
>
> Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of these
> devices?
>
> Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem
> http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85
>
> MiFi?2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot
> http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d
>
> DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC
> http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32
>
> Motorola Droid X
> http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-x/11040.html
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-clearest-off-the-cuff-preview/
>
>
> The Motorola Droid 2
> http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs
> http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5
>
> Yours in research of the truth,
>
> Matt
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:05:07 -0700
> From: Eric Hammond <ehammond at thinksome.com>
> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Message-ID: <cd4cc5fb-3a86-4cc8-b837-739b7432778b at email.android.com>
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> I'm thrilled with my HTC EVO and have been a happy Sprint customer for years in LA. As far as I can tell it's better than the iphone 4 in most ways, but I try to avoid religious arguments.
>
> With the EVO you don't need a separate usb modem or hotspot because it has built in hotspot wifi for only $30 more a month with unlimited data, compared to $60 for 5GB per month for my Verizon USB modem, which I am now cancelingy.
> --
> Eric Hammond
>
> "Julie" <tearsea88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >The first 2 aren't phones.
> >
> >Looks like you're targetting Verizon as your new carrier? My suggestion would
> >be to test out the devices in the store to see how you actually like the phone.
> > I'm a pretty picky cellphone person and if the device feels too bulky and/or
> >cheap, that's out.
> >
> >Next, mark down which phone you like from the physical test and read up on the
> >reviews. The reviews (whether its from verizon.com customer reviews or CNET
> >tech review) been pretty good and accurate online. CNET gives out excellent,
> >detailed reviews.
> >
> >Good luck! Not sure how urgent you'll need a phone but you can also ask the
> >sales rep. at the store when the next batch of new phones will be in. I tend to
> >like HTC's Android phone. The new Sprint EVO 4G (Droid on a HTC) phone seems
> >really slick and a close contender to the iPhone - unless of course, you had a
> >problem with the phone and not the service. I have yet to find someone who
> >actually dislike the phone more than the service provider.
> >
> >FYI, iPhone coming to Verizon - the latest rumor is Jan. 2011. But I been
> >hoping for it for 2 yrs. already. I won't bet money on it.
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Matt Campbell <dvdmatt at gmail.com>
> >To: SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> >Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 12:03:56 AM
> >Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> >
> >
> >Happy afternoon all,
> >
> >I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a free man.
> >
> >Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of these
> >devices?
> >
> >Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem
> >http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85
> >
> >MiFi?2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot
> >http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d
> >
> >DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC
> >http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32
> >
> >Motorola Droid X
> >http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-x/11040.html
> >http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-clearest-off-the-cuff-preview/
> >
> >
> >The Motorola Droid 2
> >http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs
> >http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5
> >
> >Yours in research of the truth,
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:48:22 -0700
> From: "John E. Kreznar" <jek at ininx.com>
> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Message-ID: <E1OTkKD-0007Yl-Lr at iflig.ininx.com>
>
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> Delightful to see this talk about Droid phones.
>
> A friend has recently acquired a Droid, and needs OpenPGP encryption
> on it for email. Anyone know how to do that?
>
> > X-User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android
>
> Does K-9 Mail do OpenPGP? (Can you give a pointer to K-9 docs?)
>
> Does Android do Thunderbird? (TB has Enigmail, which is OpenPGP.)
>
> - --
> John E. Kreznar jek at ininx.com 9F1148454619A5F08550 705961A47CC541AFEF13
> Email is the culmination of communication. Voice, and all else, if
> done at all, is ephemeral preliminary to the email. Email allows
> escape from the tyranny of forced extemporization.
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:01:04 -0700
> From: Stan Slonkosky <stan.ke6zc at gmail.com>
> Subject: [SGVLUG] Google Voice
> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTim9cle9mc5-Pqtd962ETzvVU1B8B4CUseWEby1A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> As of last week, you no longer need an invite to sign up for Google
> Voice as long as you are a US resident.
>
> Also, Google Voice SMS now works with short codes (e.g., 40404 for
> Twitter). It used to work only for complete 10-digit pohne numbers.
> Since Google Voice is free, this means that the expensive text
> messaging plans offered by the carriers are no longer needed.
>
> --
> Stan Slonkosky
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:05:29 -0700
> From: "Matt Campbell" <dvdmatt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> To: "'SGVLUG Discussion List.'" <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Message-ID: <002c01cb1876$75b6c170$61244450$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks Eric for your thoughts.
>
> The note on the USB modem is quite helpful. The X and possibly the 2 also allow the phone to retransmit and in effect become a mobile hotspot.
>
> Thanks also for your endorsement of the Google phone. I have not had a chance to use one much, but from what I have heard from people it's the right platform for me.
>
> Matt
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sgvlug-bounces at sgvlug.net [mailto:sgvlug-bounces at sgvlug.net] On
> > Behalf Of Eric Hammond
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 AM
> > To: SGVLUG Discussion List.
> > Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> >
> > I'm thrilled with my HTC EVO and have been a happy Sprint customer for
> > years in LA. As far as I can tell it's better than the iphone 4 in
> > most ways, but I try to avoid religious arguments.
> >
> > With the EVO you don't need a separate usb modem or hotspot because it
> > has built in hotspot wifi for only $30 more a month with unlimited
> > data, compared to $60 for 5GB per month for my Verizon USB modem, which
> > I am now cancelingy.
> > --
> > Eric Hammond
> >
> > "Julie" <tearsea88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >The first 2 aren't phones.
> > >
> > >Looks like you're targetting Verizon as your new carrier? My
> > suggestion would
> > >be to test out the devices in the store to see how you actually like
> > the phone.
> > > I'm a pretty picky cellphone person and if the device feels too bulky
> > and/or
> > >cheap, that's out.
> > >
> > >Next, mark down which phone you like from the physical test and read
> > up on the
> > >reviews. The reviews (whether its from verizon.com customer reviews
> > or CNET
> > >tech review) been pretty good and accurate online. CNET gives out
> > excellent,
> > >detailed reviews.
> > >
> > >Good luck! Not sure how urgent you'll need a phone but you can also
> > ask the
> > >sales rep. at the store when the next batch of new phones will be in.
> > I tend to
> > >like HTC's Android phone. The new Sprint EVO 4G (Droid on a HTC)
> > phone seems
> > >really slick and a close contender to the iPhone - unless of course,
> > you had a
> > >problem with the phone and not the service. I have yet to find
> > someone who
> > >actually dislike the phone more than the service provider.
> > >
> > >FYI, iPhone coming to Verizon - the latest rumor is Jan. 2011. But I
> > been
> > >hoping for it for 2 yrs. already. I won't bet money on it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >From: Matt Campbell <dvdmatt at gmail.com>
> > >To: SGVLUG Discussion List. <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> > >Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 12:03:56 AM
> > >Subject: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> > >
> > >
> > >Happy afternoon all,
> > >
> > >I have finally suffered out my iPhone contract and am once again a
> > free man.
> > >
> > >Do any of you have experience with (or have read reviews of) any of
> > these
> > >devices?
> > >
> > >Verizon Wireless USB760 Modem
> > >http://tinyurl.com/2f88u85
> > >
> > >MiFi?2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot
> > >http://tinyurl.com/qb3q9d
> > >
> > >DROID INCREDIBLE by HTC
> > >http://tinyurl.com/y5p4n32
> > >
> > >Motorola Droid X
> > >http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-
> > x/11040.html
> > >http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/11/motorola-droid-xtreme-stars-in-its-
> > clearest-off-the-cuff-preview/
> > >
> > >
> > >The Motorola Droid 2
> > >http://tinyurl.com/2fowxfs
> > >http://tinyurl.com/2bc2nl5
> > >
> > >Yours in research of the truth,
> > >
> > >Matt
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:24:31 -0700
> From: Stan Slonkosky <stan.ke6zc at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] Droid phone recommendations
> To: "SGVLUG Discussion List." <sgvlug at sgvlug.net>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTim77q1UMlouy5rbEg3kTuyrZT4fJL8rtMDJi95L at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I haven't tried to do this yet, but I have a Droid and I believe if
> you Google around, there is a way to use it as a hotspot, though I
> think this requires rooting the phone. I have been using PDAnet from
> junefabrics.com , which costs about $30 and only connects via USB or
> Bluetooth.
>
> Check out cyanogenmod.com for information on changing the firmware on
> several Android phones. I used this when I had a T-Mobile Mytouch, but
> I returned that phone because of limited 3G coverage. I haven't yet
> tried this on my Droid.
>
> Anyone needing only 3G data could go to
> http://3gstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=402_407 and sign up
> for a no-contract $50/month lease that uses Verizon. 3G Store offers
> this as a way for people not to get locked into a 2-year contract
> since 4G should be available before the contract is up. See the web
> site for the details and costs. You do have to pay something for the
> modem and then return it when you no longer want to use it.
>
> I saw notices around Pasadena in April about hearings for Clearwire
> and I assume this is for their 4G rollout which is supposed to happen
> later this year. Sprint owns 51% of Clearwire. As far as I know, the
> closest Sprint/Clearwire 4G service areas are Las Vegas and a small
> area in Santa Clara.
> --
> Stan Slonkosky
>
>
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