[SGVLUG] [OT]Hybrids and trains (was fuel prices and the dollar)
Christopher Smith
x at xman.org
Wed May 14 13:42:40 PDT 2008
I blogged about this phenomena a fair while back:
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-NGG_XKMyebVXpbF6EpCU?p=193
That said, oil production levels aren't growing too quickly these days,
so energy conservation measures (particularly significant ones, like
driving less and/or driving more fuel efficient vehicles) really are the
most effective way for us to alter the supply/demand situation in the
short term. In the long term, you need some other source of energy (see:
http://google.org/rec.html) to become more cost effective than
petrochemicals to really have a lasting impact.
--Chris
Dan Borne wrote:
> I would be willing to bet that that is so (especially in Los Angeles)
> but I mean does converting ever car into a hybrid really do much in
> terms of energy savings? I would be willing to bet that in a sort time
> the energy consumption of the world would soon reach pre-hybrid levels.
>
>
>
> 2008/5/14 Rae Yip <rae.yip at gmail.com <mailto:rae.yip at gmail.com>>:
>
> Don't forget regenerative braking; this is a big win for hybrid and
> electric vehicles because it saves wear and tear on the brake pads as
> well as improving mileage.
>
> So even if the Prius loses 1/3 of the energy it stores in the
> batteries, much of that energy would simply have been discarded in a
> regular car - 100% loss!
>
> Naturally, you don't something for nothing. As people have said,
> there's added weight. But I doubt the auto makers would add a
> component that wasn't a net gain, and the real world data bears it
> out.
>
> In stop-and-go traffic (is there any other sort in LA?), I'm fairly
> certain hybrid vehicles are more efficient, no matter how well you
> follow your car's fuel consumption map.
>
> -Rae.
>
>
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