[SGVLUG] FW: Hard drive question
Matt Campbell
dvdmatt at gmail.com
Tue Mar 18 15:17:48 PST 2008
Thanks Stephen,
As the drive is over a year old I assumed the manufacturer would be no help. I purchased it through Fry's against my better judgment (never going to do that again!) so no help from the store.
Matt
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From: sgvlug-bounces at sgvlug.net [mailto:sgvlug-bounces at sgvlug.net] On Behalf Of serross at ix.netcom.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [SGVLUG] FW: Hard drive question
Have you tried to contact the drive maker? I was having trouble with a USB drive and contacted the maker and they had a solution.
Stephen
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>Hi Claude,
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>Thanks for the help.
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>You can find the fdisk output you asked for at the end of this post, but
>seeing that this is a USB drive it probably won't be a lot of help. ;)
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>I did format it DOS on Linux, then take it back to Windoze, it failed format
>again.
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>I tried to see the drive with the low level utilities, but as it is in a USB
>case it was not recognized.
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>I guess the next thing to do is to remove it from the case and hook it up
>direct to the DOS utilities.
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>Great question about comparable Linux utilities to Partition Magic, anyone
>have thoughts? Some day Linux will catch up with DOS... ;)
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>Matt
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>P.S. I'm still confused after 20odd years of email about etiquette and top
>posting vs. the other options. What is the consensus on this group?
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>From: sgvlug-bounces at sgvlug.net [mailto:sgvlug-bounces at sgvlug.net] On Behalf
>Of Claude Felizardo
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>Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:50 AM
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>To: SGVLUG Discussion List.
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>Subject: Re: [SGVLUG] FW: Hard drive question
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>On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Matt Campbell <dvdmatt at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> This was sent a couple of weeks ago, but was rejected by the server,
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>> anyone have any suggestions?
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>> Matt
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>> From: Matthew Campbell
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>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:02 AM
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>> To: 'SGVLUG Discussion List.'
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>> Subject: Hard drive question
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>> I have an interesting problem I have been struggling with.
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>> I have a 260G LaCie USB drive that I have been using under Windows for
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>> I had a data error on it, so I tried to format the drive. I get the
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>> message "Format didn't complete successfully". When I try and copy
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>> data to the drive I get a "write failed" error around 11% of the way
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>> I can fdisk, mkfs.exxt3 and copy 100Gig to it fine under Linux.
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>> I can delete that partition under windows, but when I try and create a
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>> I would like to transfer some video files to a Windows user with this
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>> I could DOS format the drive, but then it couldn't handle the large
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>> I don't think I can format the drive NTFS under Linux.
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>> As far as I know there is no longer such a thing as a low level hard
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>> So, what are my options?
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>> Is there a file system I can create under Linux which can handle large
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>> Is there a way to recover this drive so that it can be partitioned or
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>> formatted under Windoze? Would wiping the partition table allow
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>> Is there a utility under Linux that can rescan the drive and mark any
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>> new bad sectors? Is this what could be tripping up the Windows format?
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>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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>> Matt
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>I really don't like external USB drives because you can't check the status
>of the drive. It could be getting soft errors until it runs out of spare
>sectors then it's toast.
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>First guess, I'd say windows doesn't like the partition table. What does
>fdisk -l /dev/sd? report?
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>Using Linux, you could delete all the partitions and then create one big
>partition and format it and have it check for bad sectors. Use FAT32. On
>my desktop here at work, I use partition id 0x0b which fdisk reports as "W95
>FAT32". Largest file size for FAT32 is 4 GB I think.
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>Otherwise, you could use Linux to wipe out the partition table or possibly
>create the NTFS partition but let windows do the formatting.
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>However its sounds like the drive may have issues. If possible, I'd put it
>into a desktop and try and use spinrite to perform a low level format.
>Catch is it requires DOS/windoze and you must have a valid partition table.
>I've used it to bring a marginal disk back to life but the drive would
>usually fail within a few years.
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>I also used to use partition magic 8 (yet another dos/windoze tool) and it
>works fine for FAT32 and ext2/3 partitions but it has issues with NFTS. I
>really wish they'd update that tool but there's been no updates since
>symantec/norton bought them out.
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>If anyone has used comparable Linux tools, I'd like to hear about it.
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>claude
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>root at scar:9# fdisk -l /dev/sd?
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>Disk /dev/sda: 251.0 GB, 251000193024 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30515 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00070acf
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sda1 * 1 25 200781 83 Linux
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>/dev/sda2 26 1937 15358140 83 Linux
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>/dev/sda3 1938 2574 5116702+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
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>/dev/sda4 2575 30515 224436082+ 5 Extended
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>/dev/sda5 2575 30515 224436051 83 Linux
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>Disk /dev/sdb: 750.1 GB, 750156374016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00093692
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sdb1 * 1 91201 732572001 fd Linux raid
>autodetect
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>Disk /dev/sdc: 750.1 GB, 750156374016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0005e2ca
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sdc1 * 1 91201 732572001 fd Linux raid
>autodetect
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>Disk /dev/sdd: 750.1 GB, 750156374016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0000329e
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sdd1 * 1 91201 732572001 fd Linux raid
>autodetect
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>Disk /dev/sde: 750.1 GB, 750156374016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0008f5b0
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sde1 * 1 91201 732572001 fd Linux raid
>autodetect
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>Disk /dev/sdf: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x35f75ecd
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sdf1 1 121601 976760001 83 Linux
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>Disk /dev/sdg: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x933dd9ec
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sdg1 1 121601 976760001 83 Linux
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>Disk /dev/sdh: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x692b8694
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sdh1 1 121601 976760001 83 Linux
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>Disk /dev/sdi: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
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>255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 *
>512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xd16d742e
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> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
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>/dev/sdi1 1 121601 976760001 83 Linux
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>root at scar:10#
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