[SGVLUG] Diagramming software

[Joel Witherspoon]

Tom,
Thanks again! Kivio is what I'm looking for. Combined with
openclipart.comand I'm set.

On 7/26/06, Tom Emerson <osnut at pacbell.net> wrote:
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> Michael B. Parker wrote:
> > I know it's Windows, but latest (2003) MS Visio
> > (http://office.microsoft.com/visio) is pretty impressive.
>
> > Maybe Visio could run in some ... Windows compatibility program as
> www.WineHQ.Com .
>
> crossover office, perhaps?  [I think this is a version of wine tailored
> to the MS suite of office products; yes, you have to buy it, but the
> price is reasonable for individuals]
>
> > Anyway, I'd be curious what, if any, native Linux programs are
> > compatible, and be surprised if any could match it.
>
> Presumably, "the" direct Linux equivalent of "Visio" is "Kivio" --
> marketed by a former colleague of mine, (the Kompany) but also available
> as part of koffice.  This is an interesting case re the GPL -- as the
> original authors, they offer it under two variations: Kivio for KOffice
> and Kivio MP; the KDE/Koffice version is GPL, while they have their own
> "restricted source license" for the MP (multi-platform) version
> [basically, they will give you the source and the right to modify it,
> but they do NOT grant the right to redistribute it nor defeat the
> license verification process or remove/alter trademarks and logos]  I'd
> submit that this sort of license is an "on your honor" sort of deal as,
> frankly, I don't see any way for them to enforce the provisions.  OTOH,
> If/when "the Kompany" goes the way of the wind, you would at least have
> the source code...
>
> Some clarification from the Kompany's webpage:
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>      "Kivio for KOffice was originally released in October 2000 and
> added to the KDE/KOffice project in January 2001, we saw the 1.0 release
> of that in April 2001. Kivio is a Visio (tm) style of application that
> allows you to easily create diagrams and charts by using a large library
> of pre-defined "stencils" cover a wide range of topics, you can see the
> complete list of available stencils here. When we donated the Kivio
> application to KOffice, we also included our Basic Flowcharting stencil,
> but you can purchase additional stencils at a cost of between $5 and $10
> each to get what you need. Keep in mind that this version of Kivio is
> typically pre-loaded on any Linux distribution, but also only runs on
> Linux under KDE.
>
> A common question is "What is the difference between Kivio for KOffice
> and Kivio mp. Well, we had a tremendous amount of interest in Kivio, but
> also a lot of requests for it on other platforms like Windows and Mac OS
> X, so we took the opportunity to rewrite the application as a Qt
> application, redo the core engine so that it also supported generic
> vector drawing system like Corel Draw. In addition our new engine
> allowed us to add a lot of features that are not available in the
> KOffice version, but the distribution model is virtually the same..."
>
> Note also that "Kivio MP" appears under the PRODUCTS tab, while "Kivio"
> alone (the Koffice version) appears under PROJECTS.
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